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Strange job offer from ProZ Connect
Thread poster: Tatiana Lammers

Tatiana Lammers  Identity Verified
United States
Member (2008)
English to Russian
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Aug 21, 2008

Just a couple of minutes ago I received a message through the ProZ Connect from supposedly a company asking me if I was available to do a translation for them.
I wrote back stating my rates and the methods of payment. To wich they seemed to agree.
What seemed strange to me was that their ProZ profile page does not have any info on them apart from when that somebody has joined the ProZ.
Also the e-mail they sent to me had so many spelling mistakes (even my name was written wrong) and that made me very suspicious too.
I wrote to them asking for their name, address and the telephone number I might use for the invoice.
Haven't heard back.

[Edited at 2008-08-21 03:03]

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Hana Japan
Local time: 16:14
Partial member (2008)
English to Japanese
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Stay away... Aug 21, 2008

Unfortunately,that sort of "company"will give you nothing but trouble... Better to check who they are and what grades or comments they have been obtained by other translators on BlueBoad before responding. Good luck!

[Edited at 2008-08-21 14:09]

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Ralf Lemster  Identity Verified
Local time: 09:14
English to German
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Safety precautions regarding Connect Aug 22, 2008

Hi Tatiana,
Thanks for forwarding the message to a fellow Jobs moderator; we are in the process of following up on this.

On a general note, I would advise to never work for anyone who does not voluntarily produce full business contact details - in fact, I won't even quote on an indicative basis unless I am reasonably sure I know who I'm dealing with. This applies to any kind of contact, be it through a profile message, Connect posting, job posting, or otherwise.

It is important to recognise that the original pitch used for the Connect platform (to attract 'premium' outsourcers and jobs) no longer holds true: in fact, Connect has been opened to anyone wishing to use it, including non-members. As a corporate member who originally paid for the privilege of using Connect searches, I can't say I'm happy about that. (As a highly specialised niche player, Connect enabled me to provide a value-added service to my direct clients by introducing them to professionals outside my language pairs. That's still the case, except that the big 'box-shifters' who don't care to pay membership fees to now have the same option available to them. Go figure.)

Coming back to the issue of protection, what's really worrying me is that assignments passed through the Connect platform are obviously not subject to the same standards as 'traditional' jobs, where strict minimum standards regarding contact details exist, and are enforced by a team of dedicated (volunteer) Jobs/BB moderators. (Note that these standards do not mean any job posted via is 'safe' - you will always need to conduct your own safety checks! What we endeavour to ensure is that known or apparent fraudsters do not get through. I'd argue we've been reasonably successful in doing that.)

We have repeatedly suggested to staff that Connect be integrated with this tried-and-tested process (which is closely linked to the Blue Board) - the reaction so far has been lukewarm at best. All I can say to those who wish to see the established job posting standards applied to Connect is: make your voices heard.

If you're uncertain about the background of any outsourcer posting via Connect, may I suggest to contact one of us.

Best regards,

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José Henrique Lamensdorf  Identity Verified
Local time: 05:14
English to Portuguese
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A minor security enhancement Aug 22, 2008


It shouldn't be difficult to include the Connect-or's IP on the Connect message.

Of course, there are many ways to play tricks with this, but if the Connect prospect says they have huge offices in Manhattan, and their IP is from some place across the globe, it will be obvious.

Maybe you can sell this idea to Proz.

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