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Countless Google visits - what data is tracked?
Thread poster: Aniello Scognamiglio

Aniello Scognamiglio  Identity Verified
Germany
Local time: 11:09
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Apr 17, 2009

This morning the "Number of visits" column in the member-only feature visitors tab says that a visitor viewed my profile, i.e. Other, Contact, KudoZ, KudoZ (answered), KudoZ (asked), Other, Profile (see the "Viewed" column). So far, so good.

The "Number of Visits" column tells me that my data was viewed 483 times (!). The number of views has doubled during the last weeks! The original IP address is 66.249.72.116 and belongs to Google Inc.

Please note: It is not my intention to start a new data protection and privacy discussion (see Google Analytics thread).

All I want to know is
a) what data (please provide details!) is tracked by Google and
b) whether I can at least opt-out of being tracked by Google and other "data collectors".

I simply do not want to be tracked at all.

Moreover, I do not want ProZ.com to pass or sell my data to Google, other companies or "data collectors" without my explicit consent.

What is your opinion?

Thanks for your time.
Aniello


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Roland Nienerza  Identity Verified

Local time: 11:09
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As far as I understood - Apr 17, 2009

the references to Google checks in the visitors tracking indicate that the ProZ.com user has been indicated in Google in response to Google queries.

On clicking on the Google link in the visitors' list, one can easily see over which question one has been searched out by Google. - In my profile, the click on the latest Google mention leads to that query - 我爱你 translation german - where someone wanted a DE translation for 我爱你, a trivial sentence that was included in the last Contest.

I could not imagine, that Google does any searches by its own. - And I personally do not see any inconvenience in my ProZ.com material being accessible via Google. - There might be some spammers using that way. But there are many other ways for spammers, and they will certainly not depend on Google alone.


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xxxwonita
China
Local time: 07:09
Fillter out certain IP addresses Apr 17, 2009

Since I could track visitors on my profile, I have been frequented by the following visitors:

IP address: 65.55.231.101, MICROSOFT CORP.
IP address: 74.6.18.254, INKTOMI CORPORATION.
IP address: 72.30.78.245 INKTOMI CORPORATION.
IP address: 66.249.72.116, GOOGLE INC.
IP address: 82.166.163.11, P FINGAN LTD.
...

I need a filter function here, so that only real human visitors are shown and counted on my visitor page.


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Siegfried Armbruster  Identity Verified
Germany
Local time: 11:09
Member (2004)
English to German
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Yes - please Apr 17, 2009

All data and information in my profile is there, because I want people to notice it, to read it and to contact me for interesting projects.

I'm therefore constantly working on my profile to make it more interesting - also more interesting for Google – by optimizing my keywords etc. I keep a daily statistic on the visitors of my profile (no NOT Google analytics or any other of these tools, just using the Visitors tab of my profile) to see what influence changes to my profile or my behaviour (e.g. increased forum activity) have on the number and type of visitors. And yes, I’m very much interested in visits from Google and yes I’m very much interested if a visitor comes to my profile via a Google search.

The next steps will be to fill in the missing information on my profile, to improve the language of the existing text and to add new information and perhaps new features to my profile. So please Mr. Google Robot, or Microsoft or Yahoo or Inktomi, please visit the profile (my profile) of an experienced professional English – German, Dutch – German medical translator and interpreter.

Siegfried


PS.
It works like a charm, 40 hits since I posted this forum entry 2009-04-17 15:16 GMT+2

[Edited at 2009-04-17 13:18 GMT]


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Oksana_Trans
United Kingdom
Local time: 10:09
English to Russian
Yes please - 2 Apr 17, 2009

Good morning,

I completely understand why one would not want for Google (or anybody else) to access your data without your consent. However, I am not sure I understand why this is a bad thing in this particular case. Any visits from Google bots might potentially (if you are lucky) make you look attractive enough for Google to raise your ranking in their organic searches, which means more visitors to your site/or profile, which means potentially more clients, more business and more money.

Is there a problem with that? I am most definitely trying to achieve the opposite effect with Google and attract as much of their crawlers to my side, for the above mentioned reasons of generating more visits, more visibility, more business. People pay lots of money for Search Engine Optimisation. And you are trying to opt out of it.
Although, of course, the choice is yours only.

Have a great day.

Oksana
www.linguaruss.com

[Edited at 2009-04-17 09:57 GMT]


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LegalTransform  Identity Verified
United States
Local time: 05:09
Member (2002)
Spanish to English
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Google searches Apr 17, 2009

italengger wrote:


I simply do not want to be tracked at all.





Then do not use Google (or any search engine) at all. All of your searches are tracked and stored by Google indefinitely. In the U.S. such searches have been used as evidence in court cases.


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Aniello Scognamiglio  Identity Verified
Germany
Local time: 11:09
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My primary questions are Apr 17, 2009

a) what data (please provide details!) is tracked by Google via ProZ.com?
b) Can I opt-out of being tracked by Google and other "data collectors"?

Of course, these questions can be answered by ProZ.com only.

Thanks for your opinions.


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Aniello Scognamiglio  Identity Verified
Germany
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There is a huge difference! Apr 17, 2009

Jeff Whittaker wrote:

italengger wrote:
I simply do not want to be tracked at all.


Then do not use Google (or any search engine) at all. All of your searches are tracked and stored by Google indefinitely. In the U.S. such searches have been used as evidence in court cases.



Jeff: Using Google Search or other search engines is a different kettle of fish.
The context is that every day users (individuals, companies etc.) access my data through the ProZ.com plattform (I am not in control of what happens with my data), and I would like to know

a) WHAT DATA (details!) is tracked by Google?
b) Can I opt-out of being tracked by Google via ProZ.com and other "data collectors"?


edited for typo

[Edited at 2009-04-17 13:25 GMT]


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Lutz Molderings  Identity Verified
Germany
Local time: 11:09
Member (2007)
German to English
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Googlebot Apr 17, 2009

If you wish to restrict the information on your site available to the Googlebot you can do so with the appropriate directives in a robots.txt file, or by adding the meta tag < meta name = "Googlebot" content="nofollow" / > to the webpage.

Since you do not have access to the root folder and therefore cannot upload a robots.txt, I suggest you try the meta tags in your "About me" page.



[Edited at 2009-04-17 13:23 GMT]

[Edited at 2009-04-17 13:35 GMT]


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Wolf Kux  Identity Verified
Brazil
Local time: 08:09
Member (2006)
German to Portuguese
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My visitors Apr 17, 2009

Plagiarizing Shakespeare:

Data: to put or not to put, that is the question!

Since someone found my data, gave me a translation job and paid me, I do not plagiarize Shakespeare anymore !


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Jared Tabor
Local time: 07:09
SITE STAFF
Search engine indexing Apr 20, 2009

Hello italengger,

If I understand what you are asking, there is an FAQ on this: http://www.proz.com/faq/4231#4231

Search engines will come in and take a "snapshot" of the public sections of your profile (areas which are only visible to you are not indexed). Your profile is designed to allow you to raise your search engine visibility to the extent you wish (more visibility, more potential clients), and your visibility in areas such as the forums and KudoZ will also increase your profile's visibility.

If you do not wish to be indexed by search engines, you can also specify this, by going to the "Settings" tab of your profile, "Search engine settings" and selecting the "No index" option there.

Best regards,

Jared


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Aniello Scognamiglio  Identity Verified
Germany
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Many thanks, Jared! Apr 20, 2009

Jared wrote:

If I understand what you are asking, there is an FAQ on this: http://www.proz.com/faq/4231#4231

I did not know of the existence of this FAQ. Good one!

Search engines will come in and take a "snapshot" of the public sections of your profile.

I see... Thanks a lot for providing this information. Things are clearer now.


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Niraja Nanjundan  Identity Verified
Local time: 15:39
German to English
Can we be selective about search engine settings? Apr 20, 2009

Hi Jared,

Can we specify which of our ProZ.com activities we don't want to appear in search engines? For example, if I don't want my forum postings to appear there, but do want parts of my profile and KudoZ answers to be indexed, can I select options to do this, or does "No index" mean none of my ProZ.com activities whatsoever will appear in search engines?

Thanks in advance for clarifying this.

Best regards,
Niraja


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Jared Tabor
Local time: 07:09
SITE STAFF
No, this is for your profile only Apr 20, 2009

Hi Niraja,

The "no index" option is for your profile specifically. KudoZ and forums are indexed by search engines (nothing really new there, this is the Internet, right?). There is an FAQ which touches on this regarding forums, http://www.proz.com/faq/3097#3097 . Looking through I don't see one which clarifies KudoZ, but I'll make sure one gets added.

Keep in mind that this can (and should) actually work in your favor. A series of excellent KudoZ answers, or of helpful, professional forum posts, boost your web visibility to potential clients, and may also give them a further means of evaluating you as a translator and as a professional.

Best regards,

Jared


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