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Mariana Rohlig Sa 
Portugal
Local time: 21:04
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Setti Mulari wrote:
I've been through this same rodeo before. Now even Finnish companies want the VAT number or they can't pay me. However, I have a standard response with the link to HMRC website where it states that I don't have to register for VAT.
All queries stopped, however, when I added a short disclaimer at the bottom of my invoice template. It clearly states that as per British tax laws, I am exempt from VAT. Job done. Nobody's asked any questions or challenged it in any way. |
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Hello Setti,
I am having the same problem and am about to send off an invoice. Would it be very cheeky to ask what wording you use in the disclaimer?
Much appreciated,
Mariana
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Maria Hoskins
United Kingdom
Local time: 21:04
Member (2011)
Spanish to English
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| | In case they are of use: | May 18, 2011 |
Here are mine:
VAT exempt invoice in accordance with article 196 of Directive 2006/112/EC. This service is subject to the VAT reverse charge.
I certify that in accordance with articles 214.2 and 272.1 and letter d of the 2006/112/EC Directive I [name] do not have a VAT number
Applicable national legislation: HMRC Notice 700/1 (Apr 2010) Section 2 ff
Factura exenta de IVA en aplicación de artículo 196 de la Directiva 2006/112/CE. Este servicio está sujeto a la inversión del sujeto pasivo del IVA.
Yo [nombre] certifico que no tengo número de [sic] del IVA según los artículos 214.2 y 272.1 y la letra d de la Directiva 2006/112/CE.
Legislación nacional applicable (reino unido): Aviso HMRC 700 / 1 (abril 2010) Sección 2 y siguientes
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Timothy Barton
Spain
Local time: 22:04
Member (2006)
French to English
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As has already been mentioned, we need the number to complete tax form 349. This website explains it well:
http://www.advoco.es/hot-topics/47-invoicing-to-and-from-spain-new-vat-rules.html
If anyone has found a Spanish-based company or freelancer able to accept invoices without a VAT number being supplied, I would love them to ask the company or freelancer how they declared the transaction on Modelo 349, or what they did instead.
When the invoice goes in the other direction (if someone based in Spain, like me, invoices a non-VAT-registered client in another country), then we have no choice but to treat the client as a private consumer by charging Spanish VAT if we are not given a valid VAT number.
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Christine Andersen
Denmark
Local time: 22:04
 Member (2003)
Danish to English
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| | In Denmark am supposed to charge VAT if you are not registered... | May 19, 2011 |
In Denmark the income threshold for VAT registration is low, but the tax procedures for comparatively small fry are not too complicated, surprisingly enough.
Keeping the rules is not too difficult, but if clients are not VAT registered, then we are supposed to charge them 25% VAT. When we make tax returns on line, either we have to charge VAT, or we have to type in the client's VAT number. Unfortunately, other numbers are not recognised in the system, and if we can't make tax returns on line, the authorities almost don't want to know.
Except that they do make a fair amount of hassle. 
By far the easiest thing to do in Denmark is to charge you VAT and leave you to reclaim it. But I do appreciate that 25% is steep. That is just the flat rate on EVERYTHING here...
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speedjounetsu
China
English to Japanese
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| | How about China residents ? | Jan 31 |
I live in China. New client in Romania has asked for my registration/tax/vat code.
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Maria Hoskins
United Kingdom
Local time: 21:04
Member (2011)
Spanish to English
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| | They have no idea what they are talking about! | Jan 31 |
speedjounetsu wrote:
I live in China. New client in Romania has asked for my registration/tax/vat code.
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It's a matter of jurisdiction, such things are not applicable outside of the EU and I understand EU law states that the service is provided in the place where it is performed, i.e. in your case China.
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Charlie Bavington
United Kingdom
Local time: 21:04
French to English
| | Notice 741A (for the UK) | Jan 31 |
Maria Hoskins wrote:
It's a matter of jurisdiction, such things are not applicable outside of the EU and I understand EU law states that the service is provided in the place where it is performed, i.e. in your case China.
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Since you're in the UK and for the sake of clarity (nit picking, even):
See notice 741A section 8.1.3. - written translation that is not "at an event" (see 8.1.2.) is specifically not supplied where performed, i.e. it is deemed to be supplied wherever the customer is.
Not, however, that this is relevant to the relationship between China and Romania.
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Maria Hoskins
United Kingdom
Local time: 21:04
Member (2011)
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Charlie Bavington wrote:
Maria Hoskins wrote:
It's a matter of jurisdiction, such things are not applicable outside of the EU and I understand EU law states that the service is provided in the place where it is performed, i.e. in your case China.
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Since you're in the UK and for the sake of clarity (nit picking, even):
See notice 741A section 8.1.3. - written translation that is not "at an event" (see 8.1.2.) is specifically not supplied where performed, i.e. it is deemed to be supplied wherever the customer is.
Not, however, that this is relevant to the relationship between China and Romania. |
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Thanks for the clarification, Charlie! I shall bear that in mind.
Good that at least we both agree that Romania is overreaching itself somewhat here!
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Maria Hoskins
United Kingdom
Local time: 21:04
Member (2011)
Spanish to English
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| | Not registered for VAT as I work part-time | Jan 31 |
... And my earnings are below £75,000, do I need to complete a VAT Sales list?
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