Headers and footnotes: do you include them in the word count?
Thread poster: Jason Willis-Lee
Jason Willis-Lee
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Mar 3, 2004

Hi all:
Can anyone confirm, is it standard practice not to include headers and footnotes more than once when billing a document. Are they included at all in the word count???
TIA
Jason
Madrid


 
Tobi
Tobi
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I would not charge them all Mar 3, 2004

Hi Jason,

I would charge the translation of header and footer text only once.
Word does not inlcude headers and footers in its word count. I dont know about other software.
I hope this helps.

Best regards,

Tobi


 
PAS
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Word counts footnotes, but not footers Mar 3, 2004

There is a distinction! A footnote is explanatory text at the bottom of a page. A footer is some sort of text repeating on the bottom of every page of the document (e.g. "Feasibility Study"). A header is sort of the same, but at the top of the page.

In the word count dialog there is a check box at the bottom "include footnotes and endnotes" (or something to that effect). If you check the box, Word will include the text of footnotes and endnotes. This is important. There were documen
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There is a distinction! A footnote is explanatory text at the bottom of a page. A footer is some sort of text repeating on the bottom of every page of the document (e.g. "Feasibility Study"). A header is sort of the same, but at the top of the page.

In the word count dialog there is a check box at the bottom "include footnotes and endnotes" (or something to that effect). If you check the box, Word will include the text of footnotes and endnotes. This is important. There were documents I translated where the footnotes accounted for a significant portion of the text (more than 10%).

Word does not count headers and footers, so you should count them manually - go into the header, highlight the text and open the wordcount dialog. If the header is the same for the whole document, then Word will count it only once, even if the document is 200 pages long. If the headers change, you have to repeat this for every one, but that should not be too much trouble.

HTH
Pawel Skalinski

[Edited at 2004-03-03 11:07]
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Aquila Aurata
Aquila Aurata
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Hungarian to English
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Tool recommendation Mar 3, 2004

A good tool for counting headers, footers, textboxes, annotations and the like is PractiCount, available from http://www.practiline.com. Does an incomparably better job than Word.

 


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