xxxEmma10800 El Salvador Local time: 02:44 English to Spanish + ...
Aug 20, 2002
is framemaker the same as pagemaker?
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Dorothee Racette United States Local time: 04:44 German to English + ...
separate programs
Aug 20, 2002
Emma,
FrameMaker and PageMaker are separate programs by the same company.
Dorothee
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xxxEmma10800 El Salvador Local time: 02:44 English to Spanish + ...
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thanks
Aug 20, 2002
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On 2002-08-20 01:10, owls wrote:
Emma,
FrameMaker and PageMaker are separate programs by the same company.
Dorothee
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Ken Cox Netherlands Local time: 10:44 German to English + ...
a bit more...
Aug 20, 2002
I only know the programs by reputation, but essentially PageMaker is a layout program (similar to Quark XPress or InSight), while FrameMaker is a document composition program much more suited to generating complex book-length technical documents (sort of an industrial-strength version of PageMaker). They are indeed two separate and different programs.
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Roberta Anderson Italy Local time: 10:44 Member (2001) English to Italian
...and not compatible with each other...
Aug 20, 2002
...which means that a FrameMaker file (.mif or .fm) cannot be opened in PageMaker (.pm6, .pm7) and viceversa.
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Rebecca Freed United States Local time: 00:44 French to English + ...
Uses of FrameMaker vs. PageMaker
Aug 20, 2002
PageMaker is typically used by small businesses for producing newsletters and the like.
FrameMaker is typically used to produce book-length documents. FrameMaker isn\'t the easiest program to learn, but it\'s got some very powerful tools for long-document management and exports to a lot of file formats, such as PDF, HTML, XML, and RTF.
QuarkXPress is still the industry standard (in the United States, at least) program for professional publishing, especially periodicals. Adobe\'s answer to Quark is a monster program called InDesign. It combines page-layout capabilities with image creation and editing tools similar to those in Adobe Photoshop and Adobe Illustrator. I don\'t know anyone who uses it for production work.
More than you asked or most likely wanted to know....
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Roberta Anderson Italy Local time: 10:44 Member (2001) English to Italian
other uses of PageMaker...
Aug 21, 2002
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On 2002-08-20 23:04, beccaf wrote:
PageMaker is typically used by small businesses for producing newsletters and the like.
This may have been true until 10-12 yrs ago...
I know PM being used to produce the glossy, high-quality Gucci catalog, daily newspapers, an art weekly newspaper, various full-colour magazines, several 400-pag+ publications, manuals... and that\'s just from users I know personally, there must be plenty more out there that use its full range of functions that go well beyond the little company newsletter.
I know and use all 4 layout applications (FM, PM, QXP and ID); FM definitely stands alone in this group in the way it handles long structured documents and its niche is in fact technical documentation. QXP and ID are aimed at the wider magazines, brochure, color production market. PM kind of fills the gap between FM and QXP/ID, with some good long documents features and some good color/graphics/typography features. ID does not have as yet (and hopefully will never have) the graphics/image features of Illustrator and Photoshop. It does go beyond some of QXP\'s graphics/color/typography features and still has taken PM\'s long document stuff a step further. What it did borrow from Photoshop and Illustrator is its user interface, which is very helpful since most users are likely to use a layout program together with a vector graphics and an image editing one. If you are already familiar with either PM or QXP, it will not take you long to learn how to use it and appreciate it.
(and now it\'s definitely more than you asked or most likely wanted to know... sorry!)
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I have worked both with QuarkXpress and Page Maker. Both are capabale of handling different types of document, from simpler to complex works.. Both are equally good.. in its own way..
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Jerzy Czopik Germany Local time: 10:44 Member (2003) Polish to German + ...
Both are different in file handling
Oct 3, 2003
for us translators.
I would assume, that no one of us is going to create new documents from scratch, using any DTP tools, but just will translate documents provided in different formattes, as Framemaker, Pagemaker, QuarkXPress and so on, the main difference for us is how to handle such files.
While Pagemaker and QuarkXPress are for instance handled by Trados via a plugin inn those programs, Framemaker or Interleaf/Quicksilver files needs to be saved in a special format (MIF for Frame or IASCI for Interleaf/Quicksilver) to be processed in Trados.
After processing and importing text in any DTP program there are no big difference in further handling. The most important difference to handling text in Word is the usage of styles. While in Word you can formatt almost anything "local" - it means within the text, not using any style - the same opearation will be much more complicated in a DTP solution. Therefore it is essential to learn their styles structure in order to achieve a possibly smooth work flow.
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Jerzy
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