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wherestip 
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Wenjer Leuschel wrote:
当时是众人把柏林围墙给推倒的，并非柏林围墙倒了，众人才推的。正直的人在什么情况下说的都是同样的道理，不会由于形势不利就改了口说讨喜的话语。人性固然是趋炎附势，政治运动里那种落井下石、墙倒众人推的现象，其实也正可以从中看出哪些人才是正直的。这次的毒奶导致结石婴儿的事件已经不是政治运动了，而是人人担忧吃到损害健康的东西，因而恐慌的现象。
台湾的报纸上的评论不少，总起来说，所谈的无外乎透明的公权力运作才是社会的福气而已。如果公权力的运作像是黑箱作业，没有大众的监督，结果肯定是风声鹤唳、人人自危。想想看，如果这次不彻底解决公权力监督的问题，将来我们还能有什么安全的食物可吃。
Wenjer,
It really isn't a political issue per se. But it could easily become one. So let's all be cautious and tread lightly. I don't think anyone wants another big debate here in the forum that causes a lot of unpleasantness.
Take care. 
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Zhoudan
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chance (X)
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| 刚才那贴我忘了说一句早想说，但一直没有合适机会说的话 | Sep 24, 2008 |
尽管他们可能并不完全同意我的有些看法，但我可以感觉到他们的正直，还有人以其它含蓄方式表达的善意，我也都心领了，在此一并衷心感谢！
同时，我相信我们这里有人明白我重复说的道理，这就足够了。
[Edited at 2008-09-24 15:52]
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Wenjer Leuschel (X)
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| Don't worry. | Sep 24, 2008 |
wherestip wrote: Wenjer, It really isn't a political issue per se. But it could easily become one. So let's all be cautious and tread lightly. I don't think anyone wants another big debate here in the forum that causes a lot of unpleasantness. Take care.
It's about how to eat safely, sleep soundly and live safely. It's about how public affairs shall be publicly controlled. It's not about the politics.
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pkchan
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不知大散文家余秋雨同志又會含泪說什麼？
[Edited at 2008-09-24 15:30]
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Wenjer Leuschel (X)
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pkchan wrote:
不知大散文家余秋雨同志又會含泪說什麼？
...是人们会怎么做，做出怎样的结果，而不是他们会怎么说，会怎么表演。
There's been a load of compromises on the road to my horizon, as Glen Campbell sang.
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isahuang
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| 爱深入探讨政治的各位业余政客们 | Sep 24, 2008 |
Zhoudan wrote:
如题
还是请移师天涯论坛去抛砖引玉吧。
楼主感兴趣的是早餐喝什么
[Edited at 2008-09-24 17:03]
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Wenjer Leuschel (X)
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| Interesting! | Sep 24, 2008 |
isahuang wrote: Zhoudan wrote:
如题 爱深入探讨政治的各位业余政客们 还是请移师天涯论坛去抛砖引玉吧。 楼主感兴趣的是早餐喝什么
Who are talking about politics? Who are amateur politicians? It is about what you shall drink for breakfast (when you don't have much choice). It is about food safety and how to secure food safety. You don't need to feel provoked if you eat and drink safely up there in the USA.
[Edited at 2008-09-24 19:25]
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isahuang
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| I certainly get a rise out of you. | Sep 24, 2008 |
Wenjer Leuschel wrote: isahuang wrote: Zhoudan wrote:
如题 爱深入探讨政治的各位业余政客们 还是请移师天涯论坛去抛砖引玉吧。 楼主感兴趣的是早餐喝什么 Who are talking about politics? Who are amateur politicians? It is about what you shall drink for breakfast (when you don't have much choice). It is about food safety and how to secure food safety. You don't need to feel provoked if you eat and drink safety up there in the USA.
what the hell does this sentence "You don't need to feel provoked if you eat and drink safety up there in the USA" mean? I mean the part "eat and drink safety"? safety is not something that I would normally eat or drink.
[Edited at 2008-09-24 19:22]
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Wenjer Leuschel (X)
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isahuang wrote:
what the hell does this sentence "You don't need to feel provoked if you eat and drink safety up there in the USA" mean? I mean the part "eat and drink safely"? safety is not something that I would normally eat or drink.
...the sentence means exactly what it is supposed to mean.
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wherestip
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chance wrote:
不存在墙倒众人推的问题，但我们这里确实有人喜欢见风使舵。
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我本来打算出来贴几贴最近较大事件问题的看法，便不再多说什么，更不想再去提个人问题，但是你既然这样明确指出，也请允许我直言，在我们极少数人受围攻和挨整的时候，你怎么没想到要说这些话。
Well, chance, on this you have to be more specific as to who and in what way committed this "ugly sin" of 见风使舵. I really can't think of anyone who outright behaved in such a manner.
Early on I clearly stated to you that I have no interest in ideology or any radical causes. So please don't blame me for failing to stand up for you on certain issues. To this day I still think the whole Olympic torch relay shenanigans was a big farce. So there's really no change in my position there.
http://www.proz.com/forum/chinese/96553-对人生与社会的思考-page18.html#817154
Another quick reminder of my opinion on some media controversies ...
http://www.proz.com/forum/chinese/101695-2008_olympic_games_in_beijing-page33.html#842152
What I thought about how the Western media handled the reporting of the Lhasa riot is also clearly documented in various places of this forum.
p.s. Sorry, Zhoudan, about the off-topic diversion. I wanted to quickly dispose of this "myth".
[Edited at 2008-09-24 23:34]
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Wenjer Leuschel (X)
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我的建议，早餐喝水，中餐喝水，晚餐喝水，三餐之间和宵夜时也喝水，
而且最好是乡下来的井水，因为城里的自来水不知有没有受到工业污染。
简而言之，养生之道：多喝水！
P.S. 人体到底有多少%是水呢？
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chance (X)
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| 也许在中国大家都有这个觉悟 | Sep 25, 2008 |
Zhoudan wrote:
拜托不要谈政治
那就不必再发愁吃什么喝什么了。
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Zhoudan
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chance wrote: Zhoudan wrote:
拜托不要谈政治
也许在中国大家都有这个觉悟 那就不必再发愁吃什么喝什么了。
这话我听着很不舒服。请你收回。
为了不引起无谓的纷争，也为了节省时间，本人以后不会再在论坛发表任何言论。
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chance (X)
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你那句话在论坛贴过好几次了，我也觉得不舒服，但是从来没有请你收回过。
你不必离开，我一般不会再来，反正早就想好了，明白人肯定都明白了我的意思，不明白的就让他们不明白好了。
最后再说一句，中国是中国人民的，如果你们都不想为自己也为大家努力，那就继续维护你们认为应该维护的好了。
Zhoudan wrote: chance wrote: Zhoudan wrote:
拜托不要谈政治
也许在中国大家都有这个觉悟 那就不必再发愁吃什么喝什么了。 这话我听着很不舒服。请你收回。 为了不引起无谓的纷争，也为了节省时间，本人以后不会再在论坛发表任何言论。
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