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Huijun Suo  Identity Verified
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Dec 21, 2008

有些书非常想买,但好像必须经过信用卡认证以后才能下单,而像我这种非上班族申请信用卡又比较困难,不知有什么办法没有。我是Paypal认证账户,但认证是通过银行借记卡(非信用卡)进行的。国内有一些代购网站,但经过考察,不是太贵就是找不到想要的书,不可行。

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Paypal Debit Card Dec 21, 2008

Huijun,

I Googled this for you. Here's one way to solve your problem ...

http://askville.amazon.com/Amazon-accept-Pay-Pal-payment/AnswerViewer.do?requestId=2733038



"Does Amazon.com accept Pay Pal for payment?"


"Not officially"
by: -Poppet- on Jun 25 2007 (18 months ago)

Amazon doesn't have a "Buy Now" Paypal button. They aren't set up to automatically bill your Paypal account. BUT if you have a Paypal debit card, it's easy to use that as a accepted method of paying for your Amazon purchases. You use it just like any other debit or credit card, and the money comes directly out of your Paypal account. PLUS, by using the Paypal debit card this way, you will get a small bonus credit back from Paypal! I do this all the time so I know it will work.

Another thing to use it the virtual debit card from Paypal, which involves downloading a program and is used similar to a debit card. I downloaded this, but I had so many problems with my computer after doing so that I uninstalled it, and everything has been fine w/ my computer since.


"Get A PayPal Debit Card"
by: cheapherk on Jun 25 2007 (18 months ago)

No, Amazon does not take PayPal, but something you can think about is getting a PayPal Debit Card (with the MasterCard logo). I have a PayPal debit card and it has been very convenient. I can use it online for purchases like on any credit card (I believe you have to have funds in your account though). You could then use it at Amazon.

Sources: https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=xpt/cps/account/DCIntro-outside



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Thank you, Steve Dec 21, 2008

But I'm afraid this won't work for us outside the US:

http://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=p/gen/ua/policy_debit-outside#debit_card

PayPal Debit Card Agreement

This PayPal Debit Card Agreement ("Agreement") is a contract between you and PayPal and applies to your use of PayPal’s Debit Card. This Agreement applies to you in addition to the User Agreement and other applicable agreements. All capitalized terms shall have the definitions provided in this Agreement, or if a definition is not provided in this Agreement, the definition in the User Agreement shall apply. You must read, agree with and accept all of the terms and conditions contained in this Agreement. We may amend this Agreement at any time by posting a revised version on our website. The revised version will be effective at the time we post it. In addition, if the revised version includes a Substantial Change, we will provide you with 30 Days' prior notice of Substantial Change by posting notice on the "Policy Updates" page of our website. We last modified this Agreement on November 10, 2008.

Eligibility. The PayPal Debit Card (the "Debit Card") is offered to PayPal users that are located in the United States. To be eligible to use the Debit Card you must meet the following requirements:

Have a Premier or Business Account in good standing for at least 60 days.

Have a credit card and a Verified bank account attached to your Account.

Have a confirmed address on file for your Account.


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wherestip  Identity Verified
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Ordering from Amazon Dec 21, 2008

Aw, that's too bad. They sure don't make it easy for people living outside the United States.

If need be, I can help you order from Amazon and have the order shipped directly to you. Just let me know.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html/ref=hp_navbox_596184_tips?nodeId=596188



[Edited at 2008-12-21 19:34 GMT]


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一劳永逸 Dec 22, 2008

Huijun,

Here's another suggestion: try to get a debit card locally that has the VISA or MasterCard logo on it. Those kinds of cards should enable you to make purchases directly at Amazon.com.

I first had to get educated on what a "借记卡" was. It's actually what they call a "debit card" over here. All you need is a debit card that VISA or MasterCard recognizes in order to make a purchase from Amazon. It's also called a VISA/MasterCard Check Card.

I'm thinking you should be able to find a bank in Beijing where such debit cards are issued without being put through too much hassle. All that's required ought to be opening a checking account with the bank.



http://iask.auto.sina.com.cn/browse/browse_detail.php?qid=3241266

借记卡有visa或者mastercard嘛?
还是都是银联的?

活死人
[大师] 国内银行有仅带有VISA、MasterCard、Cirrus、Maestro等标志的国际借记卡,如中国银行长城国际电子借记卡;
也有带有银联-VISA、银联-MasterCard等标志的双币借记卡,如招商银行一卡通金卡和金葵花卡、中国工商银行牡丹国际借记卡。

坦克6666
[学长] VISA 和 MasterCard 也都发行借记卡,他们发行的借记卡属于国际借记卡,在他们各自的受理网络里也能得到受理。就是说,VISA( 或者 MasterCard )发行的借记卡在VISA(或MasterCard)的网络里可以受理,不过交易采用借记卡交易模式,需要验证密码。
因此,不能简单说所有国内的借记卡都是银联的。



http://blog.csdn.net/interval/archive/2008/12/07/3466179.aspx

http://zhidao.baidu.com/question/6128066.html

This last link has some info on what needs to be done to enable on-line purchases worldwide once you've obtained your debit card.



[Edited at 2008-12-22 15:29 GMT]


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wherestip  Identity Verified
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Yet one more option Dec 22, 2008

http://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html/?nodeId=200138510#overview

Huijun,

Another option is to purchase some Amazon.com gift cards. They come in various denominations, and work pretty much the same as debit cards.

You can easily find someone here who regularly sends money to China to help you out.


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Gift card is a very smart idea of Amazon Dec 22, 2008

Hi Steve, I find this is a good idea for payment on Amazon. I'm looking into that and may ask someone who has an Amazon account to buy some for me. I'll pay him/her back via paypal. As for the debit card with Visa or MasterCard logo as you suggested, this is also a rather difficult option here, though not so difficult as getting a credit card. The bank requires you to have a certain amount of deposit, say at least USD5000 or RMB50,000, before considering your application.

Thank you for your research!


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Gift Cards Dec 22, 2008

http://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html?nodeId=596184&#restrict



* Note: Books that require special handling because they are extremely heavy (for example, multi-volume sets) cannot be shipped outside the U.S. If this is the case, it will be noted on the product detail page.



There's one more caveat in Amazon's shipping policies that you ought to be aware of before going ahead. Make sure that the books you want to order do not have this restriction on them.

In the future, you can also request your compensation be in the form of Amazon.com gift certificates. It ought to be very little extra work for the agencies. IMO most of them would oblige.


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Got it in mind;-) Dec 22, 2008

Thanks for reminding. What I want to buy are only two or three old-print books, and I've noticed that some Amazon merchants also ship from Europe, e.g. Great Britain. As far as I know, books are generally not subject to custom duties when arriving here.

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