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Out of the blue (Winner of Chinese to English translation contest) Thread poster: Alan Wang
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wherestip 
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| Chinese source text | Jan 2, 2009 |
Donglai Lou wrote:
这篇文章是我节选的，没选好，对不起大家。
Donglai,
I'm sorry that I was so frank about my opinion of the original source text. I don't think you need to apologize or feel bad though.
To find a decent text that falls into the main contest theme of "Awakening" is not an easy thing to do, if not near impossible. Plus IMO the abridged segment used in the contest was indeed far better in content and style than the rest of the blog.
[Edited at 2009-01-02 14:36 GMT]
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Alan Wang
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I agree. I think it could be the only one in town.
But as far as translation competition goes, it should serve its purpose right. It’s not a literature competition. Bloggers hardly meant their piece of writings to be Pulitzer candidates. I suppose this writer was getting a piece of awakening not long before writing it. My respect for him. He was a different caliber from scholars like Fan Paopao who wrote his piece of awakening with his action he feels no regret of.
wherestip wrote: Donglai Lou wrote:
这篇文章是我节选的，没选好，对不起大家。 Donglai, I'm sorry that I was so frank about my opinion of the original source text. I don't think you need to apologize or feel bad. To find a decent text that falls into the main contest theme of "Awakening" is not an easy thing to do, if not near impossible. Plus IMO the abridged segment used in the contest was indeed far better in content and style than the rest of the blog. [Edited at 2009-01-02 13:06 GMT]
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ShelleyX
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Don't feel sorry. As the source text for a translation test, it served its purpose well.
And if the text was taken from the author's blog, then its style and theme became totally understandable. Isn't a blog supposed to be one's personal experimental field? I really shouldn't have passed any judgment uninvited. I should say sorry to the author.
Donglai Lou wrote:
这篇文章是我节选的，没选好，对不起大家。
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wonita (X)
China
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Donglai Lou wrote:
这篇文章是我节选的，没选好，对不起大家。
出了这种事，Donglai的心里比谁都难受……
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ysun
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ShelleyX wrote:
Donglai
Don't feel sorry. As the source text for a translation test, it served its purpose well.
我们搞翻译的，不是经常会遇到费解的原文吗？有时我们甚至还会遇到 nonsense，我们还不是得尽量使自己的译文 make sense 吗？所以，这也是一种功夫。
当然，比赛用的原文应该尽量选得好一些，但无论如何，应该说关键并不在此。对 Paul 的译文尽可以有不同的看法，他的译文难免会有瑕疵，但他的得分远高于其他参赛者。尽管投票者会有不同的衡量标准，即使采用同样的标准，掌握标准的尺度也会有所不同，但从统计学角度来看，最后的结果应该说是有代表性的。投票人数越多，代表性就越强。这就是为什么无论是谁得第一名，我们都应该尊重这个结果的道理。
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Zhoudan
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| 比赛选文最好不要设具体的主题 | Jan 4, 2009 |
这次用Awakening做主题，实际上限制了选文范围，要找到合适的文章就很难。选文条件应宽泛一些，比如选说明文、小说还是散文等。或者在风格上做一个大体的限制就可以。不要设主题，否则很难选到合适的文章。
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Alan Wang
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同意楼上孙先生意见，我承认我起的这个thread也许有点作秀的意味。
这里有些话说出来是为了团结，紧张，严肃，活泼。既讨论一些实际问题，也不是真为了贬低别人而抬高自己。因为即使是想抬高自己，并不见得就一定要贬低别人。我对Paul是非常钦佩的。可说是语言大师，艺术家，等等，成就斐然非我等可比。当然您孙先生也是这样，专业造诣和语言功夫也是我学习的榜样。
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ysun
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Dumont,
我上面那番话的主要意思是 Donglai 不必过分自责。尽管原文选得不是大好，但并不影响这次比赛的公正性。俗话讲，“大家容易大家难”。
你在此评论别人的译文，展示自己的才能，都是无可非议的。但若能多看看别人的长处和自己的短处，那是很有好处的。
至于我，你可太过奖了。我还是有自知之明的。人各有长处和短处，咱们相互学习吧！
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lbone
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今天翻译一份 marketing 稿件，从 Paul 的译文中抄走了一句。:D
[Edited at 2009-01-07 11:28 GMT]
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ysun
United States
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Lesley,
惊闻智利发生强烈地震。希望你能安然无恙。
中译德、中译英比赛的奖牌得主分别是母语为德语的Roland Nienerza和母语为英语的Paul Hirsh。此事其实一点都不值得奇怪。同样，英译中比赛奖牌得主都是些母语为汉语的同仁，有谁会感到奇怪？Roland Nienerza还在Spanish to German和Italian to German的翻译比赛中获奖。译入自己的母语毕竟是一种有利条件。
Paul Hirsh也不但在第一届中译英比赛中获得第一名，还在第一届法译英比赛、第三届俄译英比赛中独占鳌头。看来他们在语言方面一定是下了许多功夫。他们才是真正读了很多书的人。牛真的不是靠吹出来的！
http://www.proz.com/profile/108604
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ysun
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Shiya Luo
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ysun wrote:
对于文学作品，从外语译入自己的母语肯定比译入某种外语要得心应手得多。
即使英译中，我也不敢接文学作品翻译。
就连少儿读物，哈利波特，给我翻译也很难有人民文学出版社的水平，而且评价太主观了。我曾经的语文老师在当代文学上颇有造诣，他说文学翻译没几个知名出版社不是垃圾的。为了避免被他这样真正有水平的人骂，再多的钱我也不会去翻译文学作品。
[Edited at 2012-06-26 18:04 GMT]
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Phil Hand
China
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This was before my time, so I'm reading it for the first time now. Very interesting.
Shiya - I'm just making my first attempt at literary translation for a UK competition. It's nervewracking. Stray too far from the text, and I'm just a traduttore; stay too close to the text and it's got... See more This was before my time, so I'm reading it for the first time now. Very interesting.
Shiya - I'm just making my first attempt at literary translation for a UK competition. It's nervewracking. Stray too far from the text, and I'm just a traduttore; stay too close to the text and it's got no spark.
http://www.vintage-books.co.uk/about-us/harvill-secker/harvill_secker_young_translators_prize/ ▲ Collapse
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wherestip
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| Good Luck on the Competition | Jun 26, 2012 |
http://www.proz.com/post/1072795#1072795
Phil,
Here's another thread where the discussion largely centered on whether the C->E translation done by a native English speaker was adequate. It was kind of a long drawn out Marathon session. But you might also find it interesting.
Good luck on the competition. We're rooting for you. ... See more http://www.proz.com/post/1072795#1072795
Phil,
Here's another thread where the discussion largely centered on whether the C->E translation done by a native English speaker was adequate. It was kind of a long drawn out Marathon session. But you might also find it interesting.
Good luck on the competition. We're rooting for you.
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