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但愿如此 Oct 10, 2009


nigerose wrote:

以后他如果想发动war的话,会不由自主地想到这个奖。

那个喇嘛也得过"诺(No) peace"奖。


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没错 Oct 10, 2009


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如果是中国的叛逆人士,如什么喇嘛,就会封你个奖的,哈哈,不要太当真.


为什么高行建能拿到诺贝尔文学奖?


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这照片看着蛮让人感动的 Oct 10, 2009


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个人认为, Oct 10, 2009


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奥巴马何德何能,上任不到一年,轻易摘取别人几生都拿不到的诺奖.由此看出诺奖的不公正和随心所欲,哪个国家掌权,喜欢哪个就给哪个,从奥巴马就可一窥端倪.


奥巴马沾尽了自己是非洲后裔的光。


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My opinion Oct 10, 2009

Let's not make this into a racial thing. IMO he certainly deserves it more than any other prominent contemporary in the world I can think of. Who else has made an effort to bring people together?

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可能颁奖的用意就在于此 Oct 10, 2009

先把他的嘴给堵上。


nigerose wrote:

以后他如果想发动war的话,会不由自主地想到这个奖。


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A transformative figure Oct 10, 2009

http://www.cnn.com/2009/US/10/09/obama.nobel.us.reaction/index.html




The decision to award President Obama the Nobel Peace Prize for his efforts to "strengthen international diplomacy and cooperation between peoples" appears to have left some in the United States divided over whether intangible achievements are worthy of such an esteemed award.

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The Nobel committee said of Obama: "Only very rarely has a person to the same extent as Obama captured the world's attention and given its people hope for a better future."



IMHO it's an honorary prize about inspiration anyway. So why not Barack Obama? He's the 3rd sitting U.S. President that has won this award.


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He certainly is an outstanding personality, Oct 10, 2009


wherestip wrote:
Who else has made an effort to bring people together?


who has been striving to bring people of different ethnicities together, 但是他在外交上的成功和他的独特身世分不开。由于他有一半黑人血统,全名又为Barack Hussein Obama,所以他无论是在非洲,还是在对美国成见很深的阿拉伯国家都受到了广泛的认同。奥巴马上任后的中东之行被许多国家的媒体认为是“开辟了美国和阿拉伯国家外交的新纪元”。有些媒体分析,就凭他的中间名字 Hussein,很多阿拉伯人就乐意与美国和解。

试想,如果是一位白人总统,就算他有奥巴马的诚意和才干,是否能取得奥巴马十分之一的成就都难说,因为阿拉伯人根本就不给他和解的机会。

顺便提一下,在中国的德国社团甚至有人认为胡锦涛比奥巴马更有资格获得诺贝尔和平奖。

http://www.schanghai.com/index.php?p=forum&fl=cn&dmsgid=44873&forum_offset=0&dv=7





[Edited at 2009-10-10 14:02 GMT]


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好主意 Oct 10, 2009

如果把诺贝尔和平奖授给金正日,他就不好意思再搞核试验了。


Zhoudan wrote:


先把他的嘴给堵上。


nigerose wrote:

以后他如果想发动war的话,会不由自主地想到这个奖。


[Edited at 2009-10-10 14:30 GMT]


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Politics Oct 10, 2009


Bin Tiede wrote:

顺便提一下,在中国的德国社团甚至有人认为胡锦涛比奥巴马更有资格获得诺贝尔和平奖。



Bin,

Maybe he does; I don't know. But he certainly needs to be more active and vocal in international affairs to be more widely recognized.

Half of politics is showbiz anyway, you know.


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十一 Everlasting Peace Avenue 的 Show 把 No 委员们吓坏了 Oct 10, 2009



wherestip wrote:

Half of politics is showbiz anyway, you know.


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military defense Oct 10, 2009


ysun wrote:

十一 Everlasting Peace Avenue 的 Show 把 No 委员们吓坏了





Yueyin,

是啊. 这种军事检阅盛典的场面不懂中国国情的人是很不容易理解的.


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理解 Oct 10, 2009


wherestip wrote:

Yueyin,

是啊. 这种军事检阅盛典的场面不懂中国国情的人是很不容易理解的.

确实如此,所以我认为那位 Yankee 说得非常好:
http://www.proz.com/post/1230860#1230860

其实某些中国人看美国时也戴有色眼镜,但在美国待上几年后也会改变看法。

[Edited at 2009-10-10 19:22 GMT]


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Oct 11, 2009


Bin Tiede wrote:


redred wrote:

如果是中国的叛逆人士,如什么喇嘛,就会封你个奖的,哈哈,不要太当真.


为什么高行建能拿到诺贝尔文学奖?


http://book.kanunu.cn/html/2005/0625/134.html

孤陋寡闻啊,原来华人曾拿过文学奖呢.他曾"以政治难民的 身分定居巴黎市郊的巴纽里,加入法国国籍".怎样叛逆,这倒想知知.


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An op-ed piece Oct 12, 2009

http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/10/12/zelizer.nobel.wilson.failure/index.html




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The good news for President Obama is that while he has had a tough few months in office, he still enjoys strong approval ratings in the U.S. and, as the award indicates, has significant prestige abroad. In other words, even after all the town hall meetings and the challenges with his agenda, expectations remain high about what this president can do.

The president enters a period when he will be making critical decisions that will help shape the "international climate." He will need to decide how strongly to push for climate control legislation, what to do about the requests for more troops in Afghanistan, how to handle counterterrorism policy with regard to issues such as the closure of Guantanamo, and how to respond to Iran's nuclear program.

As he makes these decisions, this award can serve as a powerful reminder about what his supporters were hoping he could achieve, and as a source of energy to pursue those goals. In his speech on Friday, Obama indicated that he was thinking in these terms. He said: "I will accept this award as a call to action -- a call for all nations to confront the challenges of the 21st century."

When Woodrow Wilson died in 1924, he understood all too well how devastating dashed expectations could be for a presidency. "I am a broken piece of machinery," he said on his deathbed. In Wilson's case, the Nobel Prize only amplified the limits of what he had been able to accomplish in the White House and the promises he had broken along the way.

In President Obama's case, the award comes much earlier in his tenure and can serve a very different function, offering a compass to guide him as he makes critical decisions about national security in the weeks ahead.



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