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Jianjun Zhang  Identity Verified
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Mar 8, 2007

刚刚手机响起,唔~~三月八号啦!

祝各位女士节日快乐!工作愉快!不过今天是否可以休息半天?:D

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三八是婦女節 Mar 8, 2007

Jianjun Zhang wrote:

刚刚手机响起,唔~~三月八号啦!

祝各位女士节日快乐!工作愉快!不过今天是否可以休息半天?:D

建军


怕這裡的師妹們還未當自己是屬"婦女"級呢!

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祝各位女士三八妇女节好 Mar 8, 2007

I hope it's not too late

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Women's_Day



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Encore Mar 8, 2007

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aPDcMyPlFvw

I Am Woman (Helen Reddy)

I am woman, hear me roar
In numbers too big to ignore
And I know too much to go back an' pretend
'cause I've heard it all before
And I've been down there on the floor
No one's ever gonna keep me down again

Oh yes I am wise
But it's wisdom born of pain
Yes, I've paid the price
But look how much I gained
If I have to, I can do anything
I am strong (strong)
I am invincible (invincible)
I am woman

You can bend but never break me
'cause it only serves to make me
More determined to achieve my final goal
And I come back even stronger
Not a novice any longer
'cause you've deepened the conviction in my soul

I am woman watch me grow
See me standing toe to toe
As I spread my lovin' arms across the land
But I'm still an embryo
With a long long way to go
Until I make my brother understand

Oh yes I am wise
But it's wisdom born of pain
Yes, I've paid the price
But look how much I gained
If I have to I can face anything
I am strong (strong)
I am invincible (invincible)
I am woman
Oh, I am woman
I am invincible
I am strong

I am woman
I am invincible
I am strong
I am woman

~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_Am_Woman


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Shaunna  Identity Verified
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For us-- the wise strong invincible sisters here! Mar 8, 2007

I never liked 3.8.
Never understood why we need to celebrate/appreciate women in general in a certain Day. For the woman you love there is Valentines, for mom there is Mothers day. Why do we need a special Women's Day if women are not under-appreciated in general?
Please rest assured I am not a feminist. Just don't like this 3.8 idea. I guess many others are just like me, which is why no woman came to this thread yet.

Any way, sisters, let's celebrate ourselves for being wise strong and invincible!


wherestip wrote:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aPDcMyPlFvw

I Am Woman (Helen Reddy)

I am woman, hear me roar
In numbers too big to ignore
And I know too much to go back an' pretend
'cause I've heard it all before
And I've been down there on the floor
No one's ever gonna keep me down again

Oh yes I am wise
But it's wisdom born of pain
Yes, I've paid the price
But look how much I gained
If I have to, I can do anything
I am strong (strong)
I am invincible (invincible)
I am woman

You can bend but never break me
'cause it only serves to make me
More determined to achieve my final goal
And I come back even stronger
Not a novice any longer
'cause you've deepened the conviction in my soul

I am woman watch me grow
See me standing toe to toe
As I spread my lovin' arms across the land
But I'm still an embryo
With a long long way to go
Until I make my brother understand

Oh yes I am wise
But it's wisdom born of pain
Yes, I've paid the price
But look how much I gained
If I have to I can face anything
I am strong (strong)
I am invincible (invincible)
I am woman
Oh, I am woman
I am invincible
I am strong

I am woman
I am invincible
I am strong
I am woman

~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_Am_Woman




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wherestip  Identity Verified
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This clip's sound quality is much better ... Mar 8, 2007

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JLSWMbMcnFw

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Men and women are equal Mar 9, 2007

Shaunna wrote:

I never liked 3.8.
Never understood why we need to celebrate/appreciate women in general in a certain Day. For the woman you love there is Valentines, for mom there is Mothers day. Why do we need a special Women's Day if women are not under-appreciated in general?
Please rest assured I am not a feminist. Just don't like this 3.8 idea. I guess many others are just like me, which is why no woman came to this thread yet.

Any way, sisters, let's celebrate ourselves for being wise strong and invincible!



Men and women are equal, no specific days to celebrate. Wow, great, a lady with post doctorate, who represents outstanding figure among fellow women. We all remember that just one hundred years ago or so, the feet of China's women were wrapped with cloth, while today some of women are still worn in strict custom clothing and abide by strict regulations elsewhere in the world.


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Yes we have been lucky Mar 9, 2007

redred wrote:

Men and women are equal, no specific days to celebrate. Wow, great, a lady with post doctorate, who represents outstanding figure among fellow women. We all remember that just one hundred years ago or so, the feet of China's women were wrapped with cloth, while today some of women are still worn in strict custom clothing and abide by strict regulations elsewhere in the world.


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Yes we've been so lucky to have had the chance to get education and see the world.

Listened to a talk months ago and was shocked. A social worker talked about how women are just getting infected and children born of AIDS in Africa. She said that in Africa a wife can never say no to the husband. If she refuses sex, the husband will throw both her and the Children (THOSE ARE HIS CHILDREN TOO!) out to the streets. So they know their husbands have being sleeping with prostitutes and even know that they have AIDS and they (the wives) will be infected, they go ahead do whatever the husbands want without any protection. And they give birth to babies with AIDS. The whole thing is just sad and frustrating.
Sorry being a little passionate about it. A colleague just showed me yesterday that Sub-SaharanAfrica had nearly 3 million (!) new HIV infection over last year. Very disturbing.

By the way redred, I am by no means representitive of outstanding figures for women. I am still finding my way around.

[Edited at 2007-03-09 14:42]


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婦女撐起半邊天? Mar 9, 2007

在PROZ 中文論壇可以看到。但看看中國的領導層,是清一色男人天下,還是需要有三八婦女節提醒大家,婦女的地位仍有待提高。














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平等是互动的 Mar 9, 2007

我觉得有不少女性并不想平等。独立性强、愿意和男性平等相处的女性有(我想这里不少MM翻译都是),小鸟依人型、愿意相夫教子站在老公背后的也很多。

我觉得在这个问题上不能一刀切。


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Shaunna  Identity Verified
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平等 Mar 9, 2007

lbone wrote:

我觉得有不少女性并不想平等。独立性强、愿意和男性平等相处的女性有(我想这里不少MM翻译都是),小鸟依人型、愿意相夫教子站在老公背后的也很多。

我觉得在这个问题上不能一刀切。


相夫教子并不等于放弃平等地位。如果相夫教子能获得丈夫的尊重,就是平等;如果不被尊重,就是不平等。如果丈夫觉得老婆做饭看孩子是天经地义不知appreciate,那就是老婆地位还有待提高。

Housewife 其实是很难做的,真能相夫教子做得好也需要天才。Housewife是我很艳羡的一种生活方式(well, if I could make it half-time )。男人如果以为女人愿意相夫教子就是选择不平等就不对了。家庭分工,除了个人喜好也是为了一个家更有生存力。

看看美国的很多housewife,把家打理得有模有样,孩子弄得高高兴兴,还有时间参加bookclub 健美班什么的,不佩服不行。她们的老公也应该知道自己身在福中才对。

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果然厲害, yes, Madamn Mar 9, 2007

Shaunna wrote:

相夫教子并不等于放弃平等地位。如果相夫教子能获得丈夫的尊重,就是平等;如果不被尊重,就是不平等。如果丈夫觉得老婆做饭看孩子是天经地义不知appreciate,那就是老婆地位还有待提高。

Housewife 其实是很难做的,真能相夫教子做得好也需要天才。Housewife是我很艳羡的一种生活方式(well, if I could make it half-time )。男人如果以为女人愿意相夫教子就是选择不平等就不对了。家庭分工,除了个人喜好也是为了一个家更有生存力。

看看美国的很多housewife,把家打理得有模有样,孩子弄得高高兴兴,还有时间参加bookclub 健美班什么的,不佩服不行。她们的老公也应该知道自己身在福中才对。

[Edited at 2007-03-09 17:06]


相夫教子并不等于放弃平等地位, yes, I would never say that!
如果相夫教子能获得丈夫的尊重,就是平等, yes, you're absolutely right!
如果不被尊重,就是不平等, yes, I totally agree with you!
如果丈夫觉得老婆做饭看孩子是天经地义不知appreciate,那就是老婆地位还有待提高, yes, I appreciate all she does!
Housewife 其实是很难做的, yes, I wonder why!
真能相夫教子做得好也需要天才, yes, I know I don't have to look elsewhere!
Housewife是我很艳羡的一种生活方式(well, if I could make it half-time )yes, really?
男人如果以为女人愿意相夫教子就是选择不平等就不对了, yes, I know I shouldn't think that way!
家庭分工,除了个人喜好也是为了一个家更有生存力, yes, I couldn't agree with you more!
看看美国的很多housewife,把家打理得有模有样,孩子弄得高高兴兴, yes, that's why I'm here!
还有时间参加bookclub 健美班什么的,不佩服不行, yes, that's what she has been doing!
她们的老公也应该知道自己身在福中才对, yes, I know, I appreciate, I agree, what else can I say!


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I said happy March 8 International Women's day to a couple of ABC ladies, Mar 9, 2007

and they said it was weird because they don't even know it is their day.

I don't know if they need to be educated or there is not such a holiday in the West at all.

Just wanted to share.


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很同意 Mar 9, 2007

我很同意 shaunna 說的,也很同意大書的許許多多 yes。

對 jyuan 說的,我分享一下在台灣的大學裏的狀況

我十幾年前在大學裏工作時,我系上(劇場系)的共識是:三月八號,所有女老師可以放假一天,所有女學生可以不用來上課,但相對的、所有男老師不可放假、男學生必須到校;但為了避免對女學生不公平(沒去上課、老師卻教了新進度),所以男老師那天不可認真教學,可以集合所有男學生一塊兒出去玩。

這樣幹法,大家覺得怎樣?我自己是喜歡得很,覺得挺公平。


我基本上認為人人平等,若不先談人權,是沒什麼男權女權好談的。女權主義者也要先好好學會做人,才能為還在不公平境遇中的舉世其他女同胞爭取她們的人權。當然我對任何不公平的制度都懷抱針刺般的批判精神,不願輕易放其過關;不過也得估量自己人微言輕,能做的也只是自己能力範圍所及之內可以做的一點點。

每個人盡己之力好好活著,我們大家就都可以好好慶祝「human as animal 節」:除了 all human are equal 外,人類也要把自己當成謙卑的動物,對地球、自然、其他動物,都有所尊敬與愛,才成。

祝大家天天過節愉快、平安!


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American's don't celebrate "International xxxx Day"s Mar 10, 2007

jyuan_us wrote:

and they said it was weird because they don't even know it is their day.

I don't know if they need to be educated or there is not such a holiday in the West at all.

Just wanted to share.



They don't know International Women's Day
Not International Labor's Day
Not International Children's Day

Don't know about other countries. Any one know about european countries?


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