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Kristina Kolic  Identity Verified
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Mar 17, 2007

Poštovane kolege,

U posljednje vrijeme nešto očito ne funkcionira kako bi trebalo na ovom forumu. Pratim i sudjelujem u raspravi na različitim forumima proz-a, ali ovo što mi se ovdje događa ne događa mi se na nijednom drugom forum, pa odatle i moje čuđenje.

Naime, kada napišem neki post obično treba proći neko vrijeme da taj post bude odobren i vidljiv svima. No, taj postupak u pravilu ne traje više od nekoliko sati. Ali na hrvatskom forumu on traje danima, što mi nikako nije jasno.

U temi Seminar Wordfasta u Zagrebu, napisala sam odgovor 10. ožujka koji je postao vidljiv ostalima tek 16. ožujka??? Jasno da on tada nije više nikome bio zanimljiv. Isto tako jučer sam u temi "Novac i oko njega" slala odgovore, koji se meni još uvijek prikazaju s oznakom "Posting not yet approved"?

Ne znam događa li se to i drugima, ali se nameće pitanje kako ubrzati postupak odobravanja postova kako bi naš forum svima bio zanimljiviji i korisniji. Tko zapravo moderira ovaj forum i kakva su uopće pravila po tom pitanju, odnosno u kojem roku bi postovi trebali biti odobreni?


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Kristina Kolic  Identity Verified
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rekord od 16 dana :-( Mar 18, 2007

Evo danas 18. ožujka, konačno se moj post od 02. ožujka pojavio u temi "Hrvatska će ustupiti Crnoj Gori prijevode Europskih propisa", čime je došlo do rekordnih 16 dana za odobravanje mog posta

Molim da mi netko objasni postupak odobravanja postova.


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Natalie  Identity Verified
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Dear Kristina Mar 18, 2007

First of all, sorry for answering in English.

It was me who noticed your complaint, looked through the old posts and published them. Unfortunately, the situation is exactly like this: there is no moderator in the Croatian forum I understand Croatian a bit, so I took the responsibility to publish the pending posts. I promise that until there is no mod here I'll keep an eye at this forum and will do my best to publish the postings in time.

Best,
Natalia


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Recent forum posts Mar 19, 2007

Natalia,

Thank you for your attention. Please note that newly written posts do not appear on the homepage under Recent forum posts. Could you please remedy this? Thank you.


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Kristina Kolic  Identity Verified
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Thank you Natalie Mar 19, 2007

Thank you Natalie for your reply. I was really getting very worried about this.

By the way, I didn't know that there was no moderator for the Croatian forum and I understand that this is not quite easy for you since noone can be online around the clock. Hopefully a second moderator will be appointed soon for our forum so that it will make things easier.

Thank you again for your understanding and for watching over us


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I'll check with the programmers Mar 19, 2007

Ljerka Polegubić wrote:
Please note that newly written posts do not appear on the homepage under Recent forum posts. Could you please remedy this? Thank you.


It must be some bug or a technical problem. I am submitting a support request asking the programmers to check what is the problem.


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still no change... Mar 22, 2007

Natalie, I see this forum has been visited by proz staff, but newly written posts still don´t appear on the homepage. Actually, just newly opened topics do.

We´d appreciate having better traceability here, please.

Thanks.


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Sherefedin MUSTAFA
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Homapage etc. Mar 22, 2007

Ljerka wrote: ..."Natalie, I see this forum has been visited by ProZ.com staff, but newly written posts still don´t appear on the homepage. Actually, just newly opened topics do..."
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Posts do not appear on the home page. If you read carefully then you will see this: "Recent TOPICS in translator forums" ann not "Recent POSTINGS in translators forums".
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U svezi sa primjedbom kolegice Kristine: ..."Naime, kada napišem neki post obično treba proći neko vrijeme da taj post bude odobren i vidljiv svima. No, taj postupak u pravilu ne traje više od nekoliko sati. Ali na hrvatskom forumu on traje danima, što mi nikako nije jasno..." slijedeće:

To što vi navodite duži se činjenici da vi niste član koji plaća, pa zbog toga vaše poruke najprije "ranžiraju" na nekom lijevom ili 13-om kolosijeku pa se objavljuju nakon što netko od moderatora "provjeri" njihov sadržaj.
Meni se isto događalo sve do jedno deset dan unazad, kad mi je sve to dojadilo i sam napokon platio status "punopravnog" članstva...

Koji je moral ove priče: dokle god se netko zalaže i predlaže ili sugerira pomoć (u obliku kudoz odgovora) onda mu/joj se prilozi u istom trenutku i postiraju, a kad ta ista osoba želi da iznese svoje mišljenje o bilo kom pitanju, onda nastupa pravilo "plati pa reci“ čime se osobno uopće ne slažem.

Netko bih mogao pomisliti da sam postao druga osoba, druga ličnost, da su se moje misli načisto promijenile i postale "povjerljivije" ili "prihvatljivije" od trenutka kad sam kliknuo na "OK" i složio se da proz.com odbije XX iznos sa moje kreditne kartice, što uopće nije slučaj.


[Edited at 2007-03-22 18:41]

[Edited at 2007-03-22 18:42]


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Hello Ljerka Mar 22, 2007

The new topics do appear at the homepage (Enrique checked this himself). New posts never appeared at the homepage (in any forums). Sherefedin is absolutely right.

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sorry Mar 22, 2007

Sorry, I didn't read this very carefully. You're right. Thanks.

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Je li nužno odobravanje postova? Mar 23, 2007

Sherefedin MUSTAFA wrote:
To što vi navodite duži se činjenici da vi niste član koji plaća, pa zbog toga vaše poruke najprije "ranžiraju" na nekom lijevom ili 13-om kolosijeku pa se objavljuju nakon što netko od moderatora "provjeri" njihov sadržaj.
Meni se isto događalo sve do jedno deset dan unazad, kad mi je sve to dojadilo i sam napokon platio status "punopravnog" članstva...


Jasno mi je da punopravni članovi imaju neke prednosti u smislu pristupa određenim dijelovima stranica, kojima obični članovi nemaju pristupa (Blue Board, dobivanje poslova, isticanje imena u imeniku, proširene mogućnosti traženja pojmova i slično), ali mi pitanje moderiranja foruma nije jasno.

Jasno mi je da mora postojati moderator, koji će npr. zatvarati teme koje nisu primjerene, odgovarati na pitanja članova u ime proz-a, pa i odobravati postove, ako su se već odlučilo na tako nešto. No, u tom slučaju to odobravanje postova ne smije trajati dovijeka, nego bi u roku najviše sat vremena (ako već ne može brže) to trebalo biti učinjeno, i to je ono što sam zapravo htjela istaknuti.

No, čemu uopće odobravanje postova kada moderator može u svakom trenutku brisati postove koji mu se čine neprimjerenim, zaključavati teme, odgovarati i slično?! Po meni bi forum trebao biti najslobodniji kutak na ovim stranicama, a kako postovi ionako ne mogu biti anonimni, ne vidim zbog čega taj postupak odobravanja postova običnih članova uopće postoji. Da toga nema, i ovaj naš forum bio bi zasigurno kudikamo zanimljiviji i dinamičniji


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Natalie  Identity Verified
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Dear Kristina Mar 23, 2007

According to the site rules, forum postings from members and users with verified identities appear immediately. Postings from all others are checked before being made visible. This is due to the limitations of ProZ.com scope ( http://www.proz.com/scope )

I am sure that in the nearest future there will be a moderator in the Croatian forum, so the discussion will not be interrupted with longer pauses.

Natalia


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Sherefedin MUSTAFA
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Potpuno se slažem Mar 23, 2007

Pozdrav kolegice Mijić,
U potpunosti se slažem sa vama.
I ja bih bio za to da se postovi odmah objavljuju bez obzira dali netko plaća ili ne. Već sama činjenica da je netko svaki dan aktivan na ovim prostorima mora biti i "viza" za iznošenje konstruktivnih, pozitivnih, profesionalnih i u svakom slučaju dobronamjernih mišljenja, prijedloga i sugestija na ovim prostorima.


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ovo osobito Mar 25, 2007

Sherefedin MUSTAFA wrote:
" za iznošenje konstruktivnih, pozitivnih, profesionalnih i u svakom slučaju dobronamjernih mišljenja, prijedloga i sugestija na ovim prostorima.


poptisujem!


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