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User	Thread poster: Lenka Wolf Brescia - správné skloňování
Lenka Wolf   Italy Local time: 04:17 English to Czech + ...	Feb 14, 2011 Vážení kolegové, moc by mě zajímalo, jak byste v češtině skloňovali italské město Brescia. V italštině je ženského rodu a vyslovuje se [bréša]. Zdraví Lenka   Subject: Comment: The contents of this post will automatically be included in the ticket generated. Please add any additional comments or explanation (optional)
Dragomir Kovacevic   Italy Local time: 04:17 Italian to Serbian + ...	adding: (město) Brescia Feb 14, 2011 město Brescia When you introduce a noun in front, which can be flexed, like "město Brescia", where "město" changes into: města Brescia, ve městě Brescia, you can leave "Brescia" as is. This is how I do in Serbian or Croatian. Dragomir Kovacevic Lenka Wolf wrote: Vážení kolegové, moc by mě zajímalo, jak byste v češtině skloňovali italské město Brescia. V italštině je ženského rodu a vyslovuje se [bréša]. Zdraví Lenka   Subject: Comment: The contents of this post will automatically be included in the ticket generated. Please add any additional comments or explanation (optional)
missdutch   Netherlands Local time: 04:17 Member (2010) English to Italian + ...	In Russian Feb 14, 2011 This is how they write it in Russian: Бреша (или Брешиа, или Брешия http://dic.academic.ru/dic.nsf/ruwiki/78066) - в городе Бреша; из города Бреша, и т.д. I think the same applies to Czech. Hope that helps.   Subject: Comment: The contents of this post will automatically be included in the ticket generated. Please add any additional comments or explanation (optional)
Lenka Wolf   Italy Local time: 04:17 English to Czech + ... TOPIC STARTER	Thanks :-) Feb 14, 2011 Hello Missdutch and Dragomir, it works like that in Czech too ... but what I am trying to figure out here is the right inflection in case it stands alone. I'll try to have my post moved into the Czech forum. Thanks for your comments anyway Best, Lenka   Subject: Comment: The contents of this post will automatically be included in the ticket generated. Please add any additional comments or explanation (optional)
Tomas Mosler   Czech Republic Local time: 04:17 Member (2008) English to Czech + ...	Brescia Feb 15, 2011 Co popis zde: http://prirucka.ujc.cas.cz/?id=370#nadpis2 - 2. část, odstavec b (a nakonec i a )? "Liší-li se grafická a vyslovovaná podoba jména (tzn. měkké souhlásce (kromě j) před koncovým -a odpovídá v grafické podobě tvrdé či obojetné souhláskové písmeno nebo i/y, pak platí v 2., 3. a 6. p. tvary podle vzoru „růže“ a v 1., 4., 5. a 7. p. podle vzoru „žena“ (viz odstavec a) – podtyp „Troja“ ). U jmen, ve kterých koncovému -a předchází i/y, gn se řídíme při skloňování obvykle měkkou výslovností." Brescia Brescie Brescii Bresciu Brescio Brescii Bresciou ??   Subject: Comment: The contents of this post will automatically be included in the ticket generated. Please add any additional comments or explanation (optional)
Lenka Wolf   Italy Local time: 04:17 English to Czech + ... TOPIC STARTER	Vypadá to, Feb 16, 2011 že ji skloňuji správně Byla jsem v rozpacích, protože jsem viděla napsáno i v Brescie nebo v Bresi, ale podle vašeho odkazu na ÚJČ je to opravdu kombinované skloňování podle vzorů růže a žena. Máte vynikající vyhledávací schopnosti Děkuji!   Subject: Comment: The contents of this post will automatically be included in the ticket generated. Please add any additional comments or explanation (optional)
Prokop Vantuch   Czech Republic Local time: 04:17 Member (2005) English to Czech + ...	Brescií Feb 16, 2011 Jen bych si dovolil podotknout, že v sedmém pádě bude "Brescií". Jelikož Brescia hraje první italskou ligu fotbalu, tak o ní často čtu/slýchám a vždy v sedmém pádě "s Brescií". Viz např. http://www.fotbalportal.cz/italie/serie-a/23200-souhrn-10-kola-serie-a-inter-jen-remizoval-s-brescii-as-rim-diky-penaltam-vyhral-rimske-derby-a-ac-milan-porazil-bari-23/ Taktéž ve čtvrtém pádě bude "Brescii". Viz např. http://fotbal.sport.cz/clanek/48326-novacek-z-livorna-ukoncil-neporazitelnost-ac-milan.html   Subject: Comment: The contents of this post will automatically be included in the ticket generated. Please add any additional comments or explanation (optional)
Tomas Mosler   Czech Republic Local time: 04:17 Member (2008) English to Czech + ...	Brescia Feb 18, 2011 Prokope, ale máme se řídit prací části novinářů spíše než k tomu určeného ústavu? Jinak viz (ve shodě s výkladem ÚJČ) např. http://www.google.cz/search?q="s%20bresciou"&hl=cs&client=firefox-a&hs=YSS&rls=org.mozilla:cs:official&prmd=ivns&source=lnt&tbs=lr:lang_1cs&lr=lang_cs&sa=X&ei=q4ZeTZSxNcK0hAewh7zhDQ&ved=0CAcQpwUoAQ http://www.google.cz/search?hl=cs&lr=lang_cs&client=firefox-a&hs=y7m&rls=org.mozilla:cs:official&tbs=lr:lang_1cs&q="pro%20brescii"&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq= Takže i kdybychom vynechali stanovisko ÚJČ, tak to "vždy" myslím neplatí... vždy.   Subject: Comment: The contents of this post will automatically be included in the ticket generated. Please add any additional comments or explanation (optional)

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