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Proofreading by Deja Vu
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Carol Chen  Identity Verified
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Aug 29, 2007

I got a couple of documents in Word format which has been translated from English to Chinese, in their clean version for proofreading. Usually, I did it directly on Word with track change.This time, I want to do it by Deja Vu.Thus, during proofreading, I could make TM & Termbase as well for this project for use in future. Could somebody give suggestions?

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Carol Chen  Identity Verified
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With track change Aug 29, 2007

Could I keep track change as well by using Deja Vu?

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David Turner  Identity Verified
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Use uncleaned files or align Aug 29, 2007

Carol Chen wrote:

I got a couple of documents in Word format which has been translated from English to Chinese, in their clean version for proofreading. Usually, I did it directly on Word with track change.This time, I want to do it by Deja Vu.Thus, during proofreading, I could make TM & Termbase as well for this project for use in future. Could somebody give suggestions?


It would probably be easier if you had the translated file in Trados uncleaned (bilingual) format. You could then just import this file directly into a project using the TWB filter and then proofread in the translation grid.

If you just have the cleaned files, I guess you would have to align them first using the built-in aligner (which also allows you to add terms to the termbase on the fly), export the result to a TM, import the source file into a project and then pretranslate against the TM created from the alignment to regenerate the target rows. You could also generate a lexicon of the main terms and send them to a termbase.

HTH,
David


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Carol Chen  Identity Verified
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Great thanks! Aug 29, 2007

Great thanks for your quick answer!It really helps a lot!
I'll have a try first. If any further questions arise, I'll post them.Hope you could kindly give help!


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Carol Chen  Identity Verified
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modification remarks Aug 29, 2007

During proofreading, could I make modification remarks?

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Klaus Herrmann  Identity Verified
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Comments Aug 29, 2007

Carol Chen wrote:

During proofreading, could I make modification remarks?

Since you are working on Word documents, you can enter comments (Ctrl-M) in DVX and export the comments into the word file.


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Carol Chen  Identity Verified
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Track change in Word Aug 29, 2007

Dear Klaus, Thanks for your reply and help!By following your advice, I could see comments in Word now. Furtherly, could I keep the track change as it is done in Word? That is to say, I have to submit the proofreaded Word file with track change to the client. And now, I do it in Deja Vu. If it could not, I'll have to proofread it on Word again.

Klaus Herrmann wrote:

Carol Chen wrote:

During proofreading, could I make modification remarks?

Since you are working on Word documents, you can enter comments (Ctrl-M) in DVX and export the comments into the word file.


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Klaus Herrmann  Identity Verified
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Not much of a difference Aug 29, 2007

Carol Chen wrote:
I could see comments in Word now. Furtherly, could I keep the track change as it is done in Word?
Hi Carol, I don't think track changes will work on this. However, the effect is pretty much the same, as you'll have seen. Maybe you could send the client a sample and see if this works for him?


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Carol Chen  Identity Verified
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Good suggestion. Aug 29, 2007

Hi Klaus, Thanks!Actually, my previous requirement seems a bit unreasonable.I tried to import Word with track change into Deja Vu and see no track change is recorded.

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Carol Chen wrote:
I could see comments in Word now. Furtherly, could I keep the track change as it is done in Word?
Hi Carol, I don't think track changes will work on this. However, the effect is pretty much the same, as you'll have seen. Maybe you could send the client a sample and see if this works for him?


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Carol Chen  Identity Verified
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Impossible import with track change Aug 29, 2007

So I think it is impossible to export Word with track change. Thanks for your confirmation and suggestion!

Carol Chen wrote:

Hi Klaus, Thanks!Actually, my previous requirement seems a bit unreasonable.I tried to import Word with track change into Deja Vu and see no track change is recorded.

Klaus Herrmann wrote:

Carol Chen wrote:
I could see comments in Word now. Furtherly, could I keep the track change as it is done in Word?
Hi Carol, I don't think track changes will work on this. However, the effect is pretty much the same, as you'll have seen. Maybe you could send the client a sample and see if this works for him?


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David Turner  Identity Verified
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Use compare documents Aug 29, 2007

Carol Chen wrote:
So I think it is impossible to export Word with track change. Thanks for your confirmation and suggestion!

Why don't you just use Word's compare documents function when you've finished proofreading, i.e. compare the exported proofed file against the old target file?
It's best to check the Legal format box in the Compare document window. The Show formatting option is a disaster!
Cheers,
David


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Carol Chen  Identity Verified
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Legal format box Aug 29, 2007

Hi David,
I'm not quite clear about the "Legal format box" you referred above.Could you kindly give more details?
Great thanks in advance!

David Turner wrote:

Carol Chen wrote:
So I think it is impossible to export Word with track change. Thanks for your confirmation and suggestion!

Why don't you just use Word's compare documents function when you've finished proofreading, i.e. compare the exported proofed file against the old target file?
It's best to check the Legal format box in the Compare document window. The Show formatting option is a disaster!
Cheers,
David


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Selcuk Akyuz  Identity Verified
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Another option Aug 30, 2007

Hi Carol,

Why don't you first proofread in Word, either with track changes or using the compare documents feature, and then align the documents and import to Deja Vu for future use.

Selcuk


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Carol Chen  Identity Verified
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More reasonable Aug 30, 2007

Initially,I want to try proofreading function of Deja Vu as I haven't used it before.However, now I find your suggestion is much more reasonable. Sincere thanks!

Selcuk Akyuz wrote:

Hi Carol,

Why don't you first proofread in Word, either with track changes or using the compare documents feature, and then align the documents and import to Deja Vu for future use.

Selcuk


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David Turner  Identity Verified
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Legal Blackline Aug 31, 2007

Carol Chen wrote:
Hi David,
I'm not quite clear about the "Legal format box" you referred above.Could you kindly give more details?
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Hi Carol,

Sorry, it's actually called "Legal Blackline". See http://businesswebsitelinks.com/business_website_links/read_more_tips/word/word_1.htm
BR,
David


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