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Thread poster: raylitalo
raylitalo
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Nov 14, 2004

I am wanting to learn Finnish. My approach is to try to read the English and Finnish Bibles concurrently (using some very nice software called "e-Sword"). I am hoping that someone can recommend nice Finnish->English (or English->Finnish) Translation Software to help me through this process.

Thank you,

Ross Ylitalo
raylitalo@charter.net


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Annira Silver  Identity Verified
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Might be good to learn more 'formally' Nov 15, 2004

Dear Ross,

If you're serious about wanting to learn Finnish, I think it might be an idea to start from the bottom, so to speak, perhaps with a good 'teach yourself Finnish' book and/or a tutor, face-to-face or on the Internet. Finnish is not an easy language, to put it mildly; its grammar is something to be learned to be believed...

With a name like Ylitalo, you're halfway there: it's in your genes!

Perhaps the few non-natives among us who have learned Finnish as a foreign language can give you some tips? Heinrich, Desmond, Spencer, Steven et al? I know that they have usually spent long periods living, working and studying in Finland. I have the utmost respect for them!

Good luck to you!

Annira


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Heinrich Pesch  Identity Verified
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Start with yksi, kaksi, kolme Nov 18, 2004

like every tourist does. But if you have prior knowledge, from relatives, try to get to a summer school in Finland.
The more languages you know the easier it gets. It's not impossible to learn Finnish (or whatever) from books, but I wouldn't start with the bible. Rather read the news in Finnish regularly, that language is pretty much standardised everywhere and you can find the same news in many languages.
Just some thoughts!


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Natalia Elo  Identity Verified
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Finnish online resourses Nov 22, 2004

Annira Silver wrote:

Perhaps the few non-natives among us who have learned Finnish as a foreign language can give you some tips? Heinrich, Desmond, Spencer, Steven et al? I know that they have usually spent long periods living, working and studying in Finland. I have the utmost respect for them!


My first book was Suomea suomeksi (Finnish in Finnish). It's a textbook plus exercises. Good for a self-study.

Good grammar book is Suomen kielioppia ulkomaalaisille by Leila White.

Here at the webpage of my former employer some links to online resources:
http://www.linnala.net/tyopaja.htm

The Bible is a bit too difficult for the beginner, in my opinion. Helsingin Sanomat Online would be probably more suitable http://www.helsinginsanomat.fi/

Good luck!


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raylitalo
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Thank you all.... Nov 23, 2004

Thank you all for kindly taking time to respond to my off-topic post! I am encouraged and have a better feel for what direction I should be taking to learn Finnish.

One thing I am going to do now, is to try to find some Finnish Webzines that I might subscribe to. It would be ideal, I think, if I could find one that was meant for children, and perhaps with an educational slant. Would anyone have an appropriate suggestion?

Thank you again,

Ross Ylitalo


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Natalia Elo  Identity Verified
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Fairy tales in Finnish online Nov 23, 2004

raylitalo wrote:

One thing I am going to do now, is to try to find some Finnish Webzines that I might subscribe to. It would be ideal, I think, if I could find one that was meant for children, and perhaps with an educational slant. Would anyone have an appropriate suggestion?


Unfortunately I can't recommend any children webzine, but here you can listen and read some fairy tales in Finnish
http://www.yle.fi/lapset/lastenaamu/lastenaamu.htm
you should click on the perls of the necklace


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xxxAlfa Trans  Identity Verified
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From Start to Finnish Nov 26, 2004

Dear Ray,

I teach Finnish for foreigners and I know how hard it can be for some people. I don't want to discourage you, there are also many exchange students who speak fluent Finnish after spending 9 months here. They are mostly in their teens, which is maybe the time when it is easiest to learn!

Starting with the Bible sounds a bit too ambitious. If you are seriously planning to learn Finnish, I recommend the book that I always use when teaching beginners: From Start to Finnish by Leila White. It is a short course in Finnish. After learning the basic grammar in it, you'll be able to survive in Finnish.

If, however, you want to study Finnish more systematically, attend a language course. Universities in many foreign countries offer Finnish language courses.

Nowadays there are plenty of good reference and text books available as well. They have been designed with the foreign student in mind. If you'd like to have more information about them, please feel free to contact me.

Best wishes,
Marju


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raylitalo
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Kiitos! Dec 2, 2004

Natalia Elo wrote:

raylitalo wrote:

One thing I am going to do now, is to try to find some Finnish Webzines that I might subscribe to. It would be ideal, I think, if I could find one that was meant for children, and perhaps with an educational slant. Would anyone have an appropriate suggestion?


Unfortunately I can't recommend any children webzine, but here you can listen and read some fairy tales in Finnish
http://www.yle.fi/lapset/lastenaamu/lastenaamu.htm
you should click on the perls of the necklace



Thank you so much for your wonderful suggestion Natalia! I love listening and reading along at lastenaamu--although I rarely have a tiny clue what the narrator is talking about. This is something that I've been missing for a long time, when I was a child I had quite a few occasions to listen in while the older folks spoke in Finn, this is so fun!

Ross


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