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Hoax? Retrieving an eCard
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Claudia Alvis  Identity Verified
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Aug 20, 2004


I don't know id this is the right forum to post this. I just got an email to retrieve an e-card. The thing is that I don't recognize the email address, but I don't know the email addresses of all the people I know. The message itself was not clear, it seems that the HTML didn't get quite through, there are incomplete HTML tags and the sender's email and mine too. Also, right next to my email address, there's the word 'victima'(sic) 'victim'.

The sender seems to be a web page that, in fact, hosts ecards; but the link doesn't seem to be from the same web page.

When I click on the link, a new window pops up with the .net passport box and my email address in it asking me for my .net password. I never give any password unless I know I'm in a reliable web site. Does anybody know if this is a new kind of hoax in order to get people's passwords?

This is the message I received:


POST UPDATE: The HTML is working here, but not when I see it in the Outlook. My Outlook is configured to display HTML.

[Edited at 2004-08-20 04:59]

As Magda suggested, I deleted the HTML message. I didn't think it could be unsafe for others.

[Edited at 2004-08-21 02:06]

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Magda Dziadosz  Identity Verified
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Since you're not sure... Aug 20, 2004

if the html in the message is safe - first of all I think you should NOT paste it here. In case it is a hoax or virus transmitting site you are puting in danger all who decide to click the link. I suggest you delete the html from your message, perhaps leaving only the name of the e-card site.

I can't offer any help since I don't know this particular e-card site. However, I wouldn't give any passwords if I'm not 100% sure where I go.


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Christine Andersen  Identity Verified
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I hate to be cynical but.... Aug 20, 2004

Be VERY CAREFUL with e-cards, especially if you don't know who the sender is.

Delete them unopened if you are in the slightest doubt - if I get one I delete it anyway and tell the sender why.

E-cards are full of codes and gimmicks, which may be perfectly innocent fun, but they may also conceal viruses, worms, trojans and whatever the latest spyware is called.

And another thing - very few things in this world are free, so they may sell your e-mail address to spam sources who pass it on....

A friend I trusted once sent me a sweet, funny e-card, and I was delighted until...

I've never proved the connection, but immediately afterwards I was receiving offers for Viagra, obscene pop-ups that would not go away, and a whole lot of other junk that was less obnoxious but wasted too much time.

In the end I was getting 20-50 spam mails through daily and spending hours updating spamcatchers, even though they worked. I had to close my account and get a new mail address simply to find my e-mail among the rubbish.

So now I send cards by snail-mail or fax, and I send clean e-mails without attachments to my friends.

I just can't afford the time to deal with spam.

Sorry folks, but that's life in this wicked world!

PS At home we have received a virus several times from a friend whose mailbox was infected by an E-card (Norton went mad that week, but at least it worked!)

And last Christmas my husband's company had serious problems because a pretty Christmas card went round the firm before anyone discovered the virus in it.

Birthdays and Christmas don't come as a surprise. Plan in good time and send cards on paper, or use the fax or telephone if, like me, you always discover too late what date it is!

[Edited at 2004-08-20 09:51]

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xxxLia Fail  Identity Verified
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Thanks for warning Aug 20, 2004

I wouldn't dream of opening it, especially with the reference to "gusanito" = "worm".

If it's really from a friend, it's not going to ruin your relationship (it's a pretty meaningless thing anyway to send ecards, in my opinion, it's an empty gesture, and too 'easy', not quite the same as buying a card, a stamp and an envelope, getting the pen out and racking your brain to write something interesting!).

Thanks for the alert anyway:-)

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Lorena Grancelli  Identity Verified
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It is a Hoax! Aug 20, 2004

If you enter the website, you can see it is a real website and, what is more, they have a warning on the Home page that reads:

Aviso Importante - No te dejes engañar!

And then it explains people are sending messages as if they belonged to the company. They also say they NEVER ask for passwords in order to retrieve cards.

You have to be very careful in the Internet these days...


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Claudia Alvis  Identity Verified
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I deleted it Aug 21, 2004

Thanks to everybody for your comments, I already deleted the email and also the link that I pasted on my previous post. It didn't occur to me that others would click on it.

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