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John Fossey  Identity Verified
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French to English
May 17

I have been provided with several IDML files. I also have received the sdlxliff file for translation, so I don't technically have to see the source document. But it would help, because otherwise I have no idea of the appearance of the original document.

But it really doesn't warrant paying for an entire InDesign suite. Is there any free or low-cost viewer available that can view IDML files?


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CafeTran Training
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LanguageTerminal? May 17

Perhaps Kilgray's LanguageTerminal?

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Sergei Leshchinsky  Identity Verified
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IDML... May 17

... is a distilled text in XML format. You cannot generate live set-up from it. There are no images, etc. It is just a listing of translatable content, extracted from the whole InDesign project.
IDML is just the TEXT and links to layout, but the rest is on the client's computer in various folders within the InDesign Project.
If you open IDML in Notepad, you will see a list of text segments with numbers. These numbers are references used to insert the text back into the live project.
All you can do is ask for set-up file in PDF.

John Fossey wrote:
I have been provided with several IDML files. I also have received the sdlxliff file for translation, so I don't technically have to see the source document. But it would help, because otherwise I have no idea of the appearance of the original document.
But it really doesn't warrant paying for an entire InDesign suite. Is there any free or low-cost viewer available that can view IDML files?


[Редактировалось 2017-05-17 19:52 GMT]


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Elif Baykara  Identity Verified
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Most probably Language Terminal May 17

CafeTran Training wrote:

Perhaps Kilgray's LanguageTerminal?



I haven't used this feature but today I was looking for some troubleshooting documents and the video tutorial for translating native indesign files came up. I just took a glance at it but I believe that you can use the Language Terminal to convert idml files into translatable file format AND to obtain a pdf version of the file.

It is worth to check it.

Elif


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Mario Chavez  Identity Verified
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IDML is just text and links to...links (graphics) May 17

John, I side with Sergei: IDML is an exchange format to share between old and more recent versions of InDesign (I've been using InDesign since version CS2). Even if you had a copy of InDesign (the right version, that is), you would still need the links (graphics) and fonts to view the document properly. No CAT tool can offer you a preview.

As Sergei pointed out, your client should have a PDF file for guidance. I wonder, in the same breath, whether your client already has the desktop publishing facilities to recreate the translation into a proper InDesign file from the IDML file you'll supply him with.

Cheers!


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John Fossey  Identity Verified
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Someone else's InDesign May 18

In the end I used a copy of InDesign on another computer. Scribus is supposed to be coming out with the ability to view IDML files, but it's not there yet.

It looks like you can view IDML files without the linked pictures, it just leaves blank rectangles in the pdf - good enough for the purpose.


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CafeTran Training
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No PDF from LanguageTerminal May 18

I just tested it: When you upload am IDML file to LanguageTerminal ... you receive an IDML file. No PDF (not even with placeholders for the graphics).

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Joakim Braun  Identity Verified
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Well... May 18

Sergei Leshchinsky wrote:

... is a distilled text in XML format. You cannot generate live set-up from it. There are no images, etc. It is just a listing of translatable content, extracted from the whole InDesign project.
IDML is just the TEXT and links to layout, but the rest is on the client's computer in various folders within the InDesign Project.
If you open IDML in Notepad, you will see a list of text segments with numbers. These numbers are references used to insert the text back into the live project.
All you can do is ask for set-up file in PDF.



IDML is not "just the TEXT" or "a listing of translatable content", but a complete layout document, containing all information necessary to recreate a complete Indesign document in every detail (minus images and fonts).

IDML has nothing whatever to do with translation, although since it's an XML file it happens to be usable in CAT tools.

I'll concur with your final statement, though.


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CafeTran Training
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LanguageTerminal actually DOES create a PDF May 19

I just replicated my test with LT and found that the downloaded ZIP file that was created from the IDML file that I uploaded actually did contain a PDF file (without any images).

The reason that I didn't notice this PDF before, was that I used the built-in Unarchive tool of macOS Sierra and the popular Mac unarchiver The Unarchiver. These tools only extract an IDML file.

However, when I open the ZIP archive in Windows 8, I can also see the PDF. (Perhaps there's something special in the structure of the ZIP file?).

On Windows:

Screen Shot 2017-05-19 at 09.30.08

When I use Crax Commander on macOS, I can also see the PDF:

Screen Shot 2017-05-19 at 09.36.26



[Edited at 2017-05-19 07:37 GMT]


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