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Felipe Gútiez  Identity Verified
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http://wotan.liu.edu/dois/data/Articles/julkfaethy:2001:v:3:p:397-408.html
Do you have good data about the translation market worldwide?
For regions?
A good book about this?
I have found this study for Spain but it is paying:

http://www.act.es/

La ACT pone a la venta el primer estudio de mercado
de los servicios de traducción profesional en España.


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Too many to mention Sep 19, 2008

Felipe Gútiez wrote:
Do you have good data about the translation market worldwide? For regions?


Yes, lots. What information are you looking for?


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Siegfried Armbruster  Identity Verified
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Extensive Information available Sep 19, 2008

Hi Felipe,
I have extensive market research information in this area. Please contact me through my profile. We will than be able to discuss what you want and what it will cost you.
Siegfried


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Is that a problem? Sep 19, 2008

Felipe Gútiez wrote (with my bold):
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I have found this study for Spain but it is paying:

http://www.act.es/

La ACT pone a la venta el primer estudio de mercado
de los servicios de traducción profesional en España.


Is there any particular reason why you think you should get market data - or any other professional information, come to that - free of charge?

MediaMatrix


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Felipe Gútiez  Identity Verified
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Everything available and good quality, Samuel Sep 20, 2008

Samuel Murray wrote:

Felipe Gútiez wrote:
Do you have good data about the translation market worldwide? For regions?


Yes, lots. What information are you looking for?


Any good links? The one from Spain is paying.


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Samuel Murray  Identity Verified
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Can you be more specific? Sep 20, 2008

Felipe Gútiez wrote:
Samuel Murray wrote:
Felipe Gútiez wrote:
Do you have good data about the translation market worldwide? For regions?

Yes, lots. What information are you looking for?

Everything available and good quality, Samuel. Any good links?


Whether a link is of good quality depends on whether it provides the specific information that you're looking for. And I cannot post everything that is available -- there are simply too many links. What kind of information do you need?


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Tomás Cano Binder, CT  Identity Verified
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I know this fantastic tool that.... Sep 20, 2008

...if used correctly, will give you access to a big percentage of the information available on the Web in the whole wide world.

It's called a "search engine". There are several of them, but a very frequently used one is "Google". You can find it here: "www.google.com". Give it a try! You will probably find lots of information about the topic.

Good luck!


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Felipe Gútiez  Identity Verified
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I know that you are concentrated in your lamb:-) Sep 20, 2008

Tomás Cano Binder wrote:

...if used correctly, will give you access to a big percentage of the information available on the Web in the whole wide world.

It's called a "search engine". There are several of them, but a very frequently used one is "Google". You can find it here: "www.google.com". Give it a try! You will probably find lots of information about the topic.

Good luck!


As a native of Aranda de Duero (lechazo de Aranda or de la Ribera del Duero), and having only the New Zealand lamb in German supermarkets, I can only have a hugh amount of envy on your current situation
Zin acritú
You should today make a lot of brainstorming about our future cooperative in your brunch.
Have a nice week-end!!!!!


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Felipe Gútiez  Identity Verified
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Trends in translation service Sep 20, 2008

Samuel Murray wrote:

Felipe Gútiez wrote:
Samuel Murray wrote:
Felipe Gútiez wrote:
Do you have good data about the translation market worldwide? For regions?

Yes, lots. What information are you looking for?

Everything available and good quality, Samuel. Any good links?


Whether a link is of good quality depends on whether it provides the specific information that you're looking for. And I cannot post everything that is available -- there are simply too many links. What kind of information do you need?

What are the companies which need translation services prepared to do for:
-improving quality
-standardization of processes
-payment arrangements

Are they prepared to relinquish confidentiality go gain quality and ease of use?
That could be interested to know.
What have you used yourself, Samuel?


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Tomás Cano Binder, CT  Identity Verified
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The global TM again... Sep 21, 2008

Felipe Gútiez wrote:
What are the companies which need translation services prepared to do for:
-improving quality
-standardization of processes
-payment arrangements

Are they prepared to relinquish confidentiality go gain quality and ease of use?
That could be interested to know.
What have you used yourself, Samuel?


Oh, oh... the global TM coming up again here?


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Nicole Schnell  Identity Verified
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Have you ever considered a different approach besides this never-ending global TM-thing? Sep 21, 2008

Felipe Gútiez wrote:
What are the companies which need translation services prepared to do for:
-improving quality
-standardization of processes
-payment arrangements



Read up on:

- Lean
- Lean Six Sigma
- Kaizen
- ISO 9001

Maybe that's what you actually are looking for. Warning: After getting some insight you might be inclined to drop this global TM-idea altogether.

Greetings.


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Felipe Gútiez  Identity Verified
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Kaizen seems to be interesting, Thank you Nicole Sep 21, 2008

Nicole Schnell wrote:

Felipe Gútiez wrote:
What are the companies which need translation services prepared to do for:
-improving quality
-standardization of processes
-payment arrangements



Read up on:

- Lean
- Lean Six Sigma
- Kaizen
- ISO 9001

Maybe that's what you actually are looking for. Warning: After getting some insight you might be inclined to drop this global TM-idea altogether.

Greetings.


Quick "idea-to-reality" processes.


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"Relinquish confidentiality" Sep 22, 2008

"Relinquishing" confidentiality is not an option. If you've signed a non-disclosure agreement, you've signed a non-disclosure agreement.

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Felipe Gútiez  Identity Verified
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Ok, again the famous non-disclosure agreement Sep 22, 2008

Daina Jauntirans wrote:

"Relinquishing" confidentiality is not an option. If you've signed a non-disclosure agreement, you've signed a non-disclosure agreement.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-disclosure_agreement

Take a look at it. Quoting Wikipedia (or is Wikipedia also regulated by a non-disclosure agreement?)

the exclusions from what must be kept confidential. Typically, the restrictions on the disclosure or use of the confidential data will be invalid if
the recipient had prior knowledge of the materials;
the recipient gained subsequent knowledge of the materials from another source;
the materials are generally available to the public; or
the materials are subject to a subpoena. In any case, a subpoena would more likely than not override a contract of any sort;

Anyone knows what is meant by subpoena?
On the other hand, generally available to the public. What does it mean exactly?

"to use appropriate efforts (not less than reasonable efforts) to keep the information secure. Reasonable efforts is often defined as a standard of care relating to confidential information that is no less rigorous than that which the recipient uses to keep its own similar information secure"

What is considered similar information? What is considered secure? How much effort? What about government terrorist-supossedly-information-checkers handling information over to corporations?
Is there a grey zone there or is not?
Is that technically possible in today´s world?
Is that economically intelligent?
Is that still profitable? Should we make every effort in hidding or in improving?
Hidding or collaborating? Hidding and researching twice or collaborating?
The question is, who benefits and how much ?

And, who benefits from this situation?Who is taking advantage of the patent system? The copyright system?

History, don´t forget history.
How old are the patent system and the copyright system?100 years? 200? And what was the system before? What will be the system in a couple of years?
Did you study in old literature the most famous author of all the times:
Anómimo Pérez?

I know that for all of us there is now law and order. And I have to be respectful with them, but...
Please give me a logical explanation why the patent system and copyright system should be kept in future as they are today. Can you think of new and unexplored possibilities?


THiNK FREE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!




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Patent & Copyright System Age Sep 23, 2008

Felipe Gútiez wrote:

History, don´t forget history.
How old are the patent system and the copyright system?100 years? 200? And what was the system before? What will be the system in a couple of years?


Patents and the U.S. Constitution

"To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by securing for limited Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their respective Writings and Discoveries;" From the United States Constitution, Article I, Section 8, Clause 8.[1]

Copyright

Copyright was invented after the advent of the printing press and subsequent widening of public literacy. As a legal concept, its origins in Britain were from a reaction to printers' monopolies at the beginning of the eighteenth century. In Britain the King of England and Scotland was concerned by the unregulated copying of books and used the royal prerogative to pass the Licensing Act of 1662 which established a register of licensed books and required a copy to be deposited with the Stationers Company, essentially continuing the licensing of material for the benefit of printers that had long been in effect. The Statute of Anne in 1709 was the first real copyright act, and gave the author in the new state of Britain rights for a fixed period, after which the copyright expired. Internationally, the Berne Convention in 1887 set out the scope of copyright protection, and is still in force to this day. Copyright has grown from a legal concept regulating copying rights in the publishing of books and maps to one with a significant effect on nearly every modern industry, covering such items as sound recordings, films, photographs, software, and architectural works.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_copyright_law

Patents


In 500 BC, in the Greek city of Sybaris (located in what is now southern Italy), "encouragement was held out to all who should discover any new refinement in luxury, the profits arising from which were secured to the inventor by patent for the space of a year."

Patents in the modern sense originated in 1474, when the Republic of Venice enacted a decree by which new and inventive devices, once they had been put into practice, had to be communicated to the Republic in order to obtain the right to prevent others from using them.

England followed with the Statute of Monopolies in 1623 under King James I, which declared that patents could only be granted for "projects of new invention." During the reign of Queen Anne (1702–1714), the lawyers of the English Court developed the requirement that a written description of the invention must be submitted. These developments, which were in place during the Colonial period, formed the basis for modern English and United States patent law.

In the United States, during the colonial period and Articles of Confederation years (1778–1789), several states adopted patent systems of their own. The first Congress adopted a Patent Act, in 1790, and the first patent was issued under this Act on July 31, 1790 (and the subject matter of that patent was for the making of potash, and so on).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patent#History


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