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How to establish yourself, having "rare" specialty?
Thread poster: Jaroslav Tavgen
Jaroslav Tavgen
Estonia
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English to Russian
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Sep 29, 2008

THe most "demanded" specialities, as you all know - are IT, juridical and technical.

But what to do if speciality is a rare one? For exaple, my speciality is poker. Also - casino and sports betting.

Interests also doesn´t help - esoterics, astrology, science, astronomy, psychology, mystics and fantasy.

I have been trying to establish myself as a IT, juridical and technical translator, but i feel there very uncofortable, and I doubt I can compete there, despite having some knowledge in coputers and economy.

What should I do, how to establish myself?


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Pavle Perencevic  Identity Verified
Canada
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Serbian to English
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just a suggestion Sep 29, 2008

slavaentp wrote:

THe most "demanded" specialities, as you all know - are IT, juridical and technical.

But what to do if speciality is a rare one? For exaple, my speciality is poker. Also - casino and sports betting.

Interests also doesn´t help - esoterics, astrology, science, astronomy, psychology, mystics and fantasy.

I have been trying to establish myself as a IT, juridical and technical translator, but i feel there very uncofortable, and I doubt I can compete there, despite having some knowledge in coputers and economy.

What should I do, how to establish myself?


You should go for finance - specifically, subprime mortgages and/or stock markets. Your knowledge of poker and sports betting will definitely come in handy, and from what I see, there's no shortage of esoterics, fantasy and mystics in these "areas of specialization".


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Karen Stokes  Identity Verified
United Kingdom
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French to English
Look at your interests Sep 29, 2008

I'm surprised you say your interests don't help - I'd have thought science and perhaps psychology would be at least a couple of areas you could pursue.

At the end of the day I think you have to be guided by the areas you can work effectively in, whether or not they are the ones you perceive to be most in demand. Far better to be a first-class scientific translator than a mediocre legal one.

Best,

Karen


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Karen Tkaczyk  Identity Verified
United States
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You only need a few clients Sep 30, 2008

My adivce is to stick with what you know best. You'll enjoy your work more and produce higher quality. You only need a few regular clients to keep you in busness. Send emails to gaming machine manufacturers like IGT to try to get direct clients in that subject. If you like astronomy, contact telescope manufacturers.
I have a moderately rare specialty (chemistry) and I have plenty work. Most of the agencies I meet/write to don't need me, but those who do have that kind of work, they REALLY need me and pay me well based on the fact I'm an expert.
Karen


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Nicole Schnell  Identity Verified
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I noticed that you don't have a tag line on your profile page Sep 30, 2008

Maybe this would be the perfect tool for advertising your specialty. When searching for translators, the name and the tag line are the first things to show up.

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ViktoriaG  Identity Verified
Canada
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Sorry for my bluntness... Sep 30, 2008

I don't think you should go for any of those "demanded specialities". I don't think you can offer quality work since you sound like you are not any better versed in it than the average person.

By the way, you shouldn't choose your specialization based on how much money you can make off of it. You should just stick with specializations you actually understand. Otherwise, I would most likely be an astronaut at the moment - and wouldn't live long. You should stick with poker. For everybody's sake.

Sorry if I'm blunt - it's just what I think.

P.S.:
Pavle wrote:
Your knowledge of poker and sports betting will definitely come in handy, and from what I see, there's no shortage of esoterics, fantasy and mystics in these "areas of specialization".


This also goes for translation lately - wouldn't you agree?


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Jaroslav Tavgen
Estonia
Local time: 20:30
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"Not demanded" specialities Sep 30, 2008

Pavle Perencevic wrote:

slavaentp wrote:

THe most "demanded" specialities, as you all know - are IT, juridical and technical.

But what to do if speciality is a rare one? For exaple, my speciality is poker. Also - casino and sports betting.

Interests also doesn´t help - esoterics, astrology, science, astronomy, psychology, mystics and fantasy.

I have been trying to establish myself as a IT, juridical and technical translator, but i feel there very uncofortable, and I doubt I can compete there, despite having some knowledge in coputers and economy.

What should I do, how to establish myself?


You should go for finance - specifically, subprime mortgages and/or stock markets. Your knowledge of poker and sports betting will definitely come in handy, and from what I see, there's no shortage of esoterics, fantasy and mystics in these "areas of specialization".


Where do find all these?:) May be I lack the basic knowledge of how to find a job and earnings for translators, because I base my judgement on job sites, which usually demand technical and juridical translation.

ProZ is useless for finding clients, because the competition of "English-Russian" translations is enormous. Once there was a job posting without any restrictions on English-Russian translation. 156 applications!!! Of course I don't have an experience with the help of which client will prefer me.


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Jaroslav Tavgen
Estonia
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where Sep 30, 2008

Karen Stokes wrote:

I'm surprised you say your interests don't help - I'd have thought science and perhaps psychology would be at least a couple of areas you could pursue.

At the end of the day I think you have to be guided by the areas you can work effectively in, whether or not they are the ones you perceive to be most in demand. Far better to be a first-class scientific translator than a mediocre legal one.

Best,

Karen

The same question - where to find:)


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Jaroslav Tavgen
Estonia
Local time: 20:30
English to Russian
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Thank you Sep 30, 2008

Karen Tkaczyk wrote:

My adivce is to stick with what you know best. You'll enjoy your work more and produce higher quality. You only need a few regular clients to keep you in busness. Send emails to gaming machine manufacturers like IGT to try to get direct clients in that subject. If you like astronomy, contact telescope manufacturers.
I have a moderately rare specialty (chemistry) and I have plenty work. Most of the agencies I meet/write to don't need me, but those who do have that kind of work, they REALLY need me and pay me well based on the fact I'm an expert.
Karen

Thank you for an advice!


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Jaroslav Tavgen
Estonia
Local time: 20:30
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Bluntness and interests Sep 30, 2008

Viktoria Gimbe wrote:

I don't think you should go for any of those "demanded specialities". I don't think you can offer quality work since you sound like you are not any better versed in it than the average person.

By the way, you shouldn't choose your specialization based on how much money you can make off of it. You should just stick with specializations you actually understand. Otherwise, I would most likely be an astronaut at the moment - and wouldn't live long. You should stick with poker. For everybody's sake.

Sorry if I'm blunt - it's just what I think.

P.S.:
Pavle wrote:
Your knowledge of poker and sports betting will definitely come in handy, and from what I see, there's no shortage of esoterics, fantasy and mystics in these "areas of specialization".


This also goes for translation lately - wouldn't you agree?

It's great that you are blunt!:) Thank you!:)

Of course those things need to be translated. The question is where to find a demand:)


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Heinrich Pesch  Identity Verified
Finland
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What's wrong with poker-translation? Sep 30, 2008

Poker is a very sought after speciality nowadays. There must be hundreds of poker-sites on the web.
Regards
Heinrich


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Mervyn Henderson  Identity Verified
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Youre in the rong biznis Oct 3, 2008

Hi slavaentp,

As others have said, stick to your specialisations, and I think you'd make a better living by actually applying your insider knowledge. You could use your knowledge of poker to go and play with the big boys and clean them out, or do it on-line. Spend hours in the casino with a pen and notepad recording results, and do the same. Write horoscopes the rest of the time, and/or a book like The Secret, as discussed in another current thread. Simple.


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