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Websites - is it worth having one?
Thread poster: Sonia Rowland

Sonia Rowland
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German to English
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Jul 7, 2001

Just starting out as a freelance translator, I was considering having a website to \'broaden my exposure\'. If I advertise in the yellow pages and call myself something like \'AA Translations\', I can be fairly certain to be close to the top of the page. How can I guarantee to be one of the first to come up in a search engine? Any computer buffs out there who can help?

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Marcus Malabad  Identity Verified
Canada
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German to English
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Jul 7, 2001

Sonia,



The most essential thing to do if you want your Web site to appear in the first five results of a search engine is KEYWORD (or even the first result). The title of your site (in the HTML body) should be what you think your potential client will type into the search window. For example, client X is looking for an English translation of a German text. You\'d assume he or she will type \"German\" and \"translation\" (or \"German translation\" or \"translation\" and \"German to English\").



Figure out what that all-encompassing phrase could be that will cover most permutations of what you\'re offering. Then put that phrase right on top or near the top of the first page of your site.



Cool sounding names or titles that bear the proper name of the translator usually do not come up among the first results because no one will ever dream of typing \"XXX Translations\" in a search engine unless that person has heard of it.



Henry can tell you more about the particulars...just my two cents (actually doing it myself right now).



You can also hire people to do it for you. Not very complicated.


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xxxeurotransl
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Jul 7, 2001

I fully agree - having your own website is the best you can do (in combination with other advertising channels such as Yellow Pages, directories, etc.).



Getting to the top is not the most important thing for you right now, because you are just starting out, and you will have to earn your \"credentials\" (professional references, list of previous translation work, etc.) first - this is what potential clients will be interested in, not the ranking of your website.



So, creating your own ProZ profile and bidding on jobs (and hopefully landing jobs) is the first step in the right direction. Good Luck!

[ This Message was edited by: on 2001-07-08 11:11 ]


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Sonia Rowland
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Jul 10, 2001

Sorry to sound so green - as I learnt my languages in \'real life\' instead of some university, I lack the necessary contacts.

So, could you please give me some pointers as to what you mean by \'directories\'.

Thanks as lot for your help,

Sonia.


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xxxeurotransl
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Jul 11, 2001

Well, there are several business directories as well as special directories for translators:



- ProZ

- Aquarius (and several other Internet directories



- the directories of translators\' associations (such as ATA, ITI, IoL, BDÜ, etc.)



Starting out is never easy. That\'s why I have always said that it\'s best to undergo formalized translation training (at a college or university) because this is still the best way of establishing a personal network of contacts within the translation industry (and these contacts and ties will last a lifetime!)


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Blanca Rodr�guez
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Jul 14, 2001

Hi Sonia



Werner is right, you would be amazed if you knew how many directories can be found on the Internet. Some are more active and some are less. Actually Proz is one of the best ones.



I have a list of interesting links at my website (with several directories, among others), so feel free to visit it: www.terra.es/personal3/bl.rod
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Paul Dixon  Identity Verified
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My website Apr 14, 2010

I have been considering having my website for some time now, but so far have been put off by the costs involved. I know there are some free site builders available but I do not consider myself computer-literate enough to try it out.

I agree that a website is important but not to start with. Word of mouth would appear to be the best way to get work, as even the jobs on ProZ are very few (especially if you are not a member) and rates tend to be low.

If anyone knows of a free site-building program which is VERY user-friendly and understandable to a "computer dummy" please post here.


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Valeria Sciarrillo  Identity Verified
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Free website builder Apr 15, 2010

Try wix.com it's fast, professional-looking, and really easy to use. I have my own small website on wix, so just ask if you need help!

Valeria


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Stanislav Pokorny  Identity Verified
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Free website templates Apr 20, 2010

Hi Paul,
perhaps you could download some of the CSS-based website templates (e.g. from www.freecsstemplates.org) and some free HTML editor (e.g. http://www.coffeecup.com/free-editor) and play with the content a little.
Basically, all you need to do is to replace the dummy "Lorem ipsum..." text with some information about yourself and the services you offer.
It's really easy: if you can work with a text editor, you can basically work with an HTML editor just as well.
I hope it helps.


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Bruno Marmier  Identity Verified
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You can use a CMS Apr 20, 2010

Hi,

You can also considerer using a CMS (Content management system) to build your website.

Most basic hosting services offers a CMS easy installation, with template management which allows you to play a little with the design.

You can budget about 60 $/year for that.

Of course, a the beginning it can be time consuming.

Regards

Bruno


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Tim Drayton  Identity Verified
Cyprus
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HTML is simple Apr 20, 2010

Paul Dixon wrote:

I have been considering having my website for some time now, but so far have been put off by the costs involved. I know there are some free site builders available but I do not consider myself computer-literate enough to try it out.

I agree that a website is important but not to start with. Word of mouth would appear to be the best way to get work, as even the jobs on ProZ are very few (especially if you are not a member) and rates tend to be low.

If anyone knows of a free site-building program which is VERY user-friendly and understandable to a "computer dummy" please post here.


I constructed my own website in basic HTML coding, and maintain it myself. HTML is not difficult. You can easily find sources of information through Google. An individual translator does not need a very complex website.


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Madeleine MacRae Klintebo  Identity Verified
United Kingdom
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Only partially true Apr 20, 2010

Tim Drayton wrote:

HTML is simple


I constructed my own website in basic HTML coding, and maintain it myself. HTML is not difficult. You can easily find sources of information through Google. An individual translator does not need a very complex website.


In 2001, when this thread was started, knowledge of a the basics of HTML (4 and XHTML in those days) might have been enough. But even in those distant days, a basic knowledge of CSS was also needed as styling HTML tags and attributes were fast becoming "deprecated". The generally consensus was, and is, to separate style from content. You can do this either by adding CSS styles to your HTML file, or preferably, by using one or more separate CSS files. And nowadays, you should also keep an eye on HTML5 as all recent web browsers have partially implemented this standard.

Using only a bit of HTML for a website is on the level of asking your teenage nephew with a few years' French lessons to translate a document. Great if all you want is something to show family and friends, not so great if you intend to use it for selling/marketing purposes. The result is likely to end up on page 73 in Google results and no amount of SEO will rescue it. Even if the site is likely to be fast to download (due to lack of code), I doubt it will be rated very high by Google's new search engine offering Caffeine which supposably gives great emphasis to speed.

Unless you want to spend a substantial amount of time learning the ins and outs of HTML and CSS (and maybe basic JavaScript)*, I suggest you either:

  • call in the professionals
  • use templates supplied by your website host
  • use templates provided by Wordpress or similar (not just for blogs)


*And that's just for a very basic site. If you want any kind of interactively, for example collecting data from a form potential clients fill in, you need to add server side script, for example PHP, as well as build a basic database with MySQL or similar.







[Edited at 2010-04-20 10:53 GMT]


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Ann Krol  Identity Verified
Spain
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Website for small business Apr 20, 2010

Hello,

Free website can be created also with http://www.yola.com/
It's very easy to create and it has some nice tools.

Good luck!
Ann


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solange trad
Portuguese
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using free tools to advertise your "professional service" Apr 20, 2010

This thread is the equivalent to a discussion on a web developers' forum about how to get free translations.

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elzbieta jatowt  Identity Verified
France
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KompoZer Apr 20, 2010

Hi Paul,

You can try the KompoZer: http://www.kompozer.net/download.php
I did my website with it and I can answer to all your questions.

Franela


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