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New to the site - should I quote on jobs or wait for the employers to come to me?
Thread poster: BNG TRANSLATIONS
BNG TRANSLATIONS
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Sep 15, 2005

Hello Everyone,
I am new on this site. I am just wondering, if you guys answer all the posts or do you wait for the empoyers to contact you.
can you give me some info on how can i establish contacts with employers.
Thank you

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Galina Blankenship  Identity Verified
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Bidding on time is important Sep 15, 2005

My advise: try to bid for every job you feel you qualify for, especially since you are a beginner. After a while, if you are good and reliable you will eventually get a constant clientile and will aford simply waiting for them to contact you. For now keep the "view jobs" page on all the time)

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Amy Williams  Identity Verified
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Job quotes Sep 15, 2005

Hi Bojana,
Welcome to the site!

Why not work on your profile to encourage employers to contact you? There are hundreds of tips all over the site - just search the forums.

One interesting thing you could develop is the Serbo-Croat: you list it as a combination but you don't say how you came to know it - employers will want to know at a glance what your native language is and which other languages you are competent in, to what level etc. and your list of working languages could be confusing because you don't say anything about Serbo-Croat anywhere else. This is potentially a great combination.

Hope that helps!

[Edited at 2005-09-15 18:04]

[Edited at 2005-09-15 18:17]


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Amy Williams  Identity Verified
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Do you have a website? Sep 15, 2005

Another good marketing tool is a website. It won't cost much and it's a great way to attract clients. Do you have one?

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BNG TRANSLATIONS
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Website Sep 15, 2005

I don't have a web site... how can i set it up?
Thanks for your help..

Amy Williams wrote:

Another good marketing tool is a website. It won't cost much and it's a great way to attract clients. Do you have one?


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BNG TRANSLATIONS
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Website Sep 15, 2005

I do not have a website. How can I get one?
Also, would you recommend upgrading to platinum?


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Amy Williams  Identity Verified
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website Sep 15, 2005

Hi Bojana,
You can get free web pages but they often have adverts on them - nevertheless they're still free!
Try something like Yahoo Geocities or type "free webspace" into Google and see what it comes up with.

If you want your "own" advert-free site you need to register a domain name and sign up for a hosting service. It's worth looking around for a good deal but read the small print because if it looks too good to be true it often is!

As far as platinum membership is concerned there are lots of past forum threads about going platinum. Just type "platinum" in the search box and select "forums". Proz offers a hosting package to platinum members which might be worth checking out.


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BNG TRANSLATIONS
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Website Sep 15, 2005

Thank you so much for your help. I will look into this.

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Heinrich Pesch  Identity Verified
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Hosting system is good here at Proz.com Sep 16, 2005

For platinum members hosting of a web-site (mybusiness.com etc.) is free. I am very satisfied with it, after having had my site for many years at commercial hosting enterprises and paid at least 300 Euro a year. Now its free and everything works well.

You should really concentrate on the language combination you are best at (fast and good).

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Heinrich


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Henry Dotterer
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Structural recommendations Sep 16, 2005

Hello Bojana, welcome to ProZ.com.

I looked at your profile. Setting aside the issue of quoting, I have the following recommendations:
- Specialize, for "fun and profit."
- Enter detailed fields of expertise in your profile. You won't come up in most directory searches until you have done that.
- Expand upon your two years of translation experience. What fields did you work in? Consider listing clients in your portfolio (with permission).
- Enter a tagline. This is the one line that will appear with your name in the directory.
- Take steps to boost traffic to your profile.
- Go platinum. Platinum members meet new clients four times more frequently.

Now, getting back to your question and quoting: Watch the job postings, but quote only when a job is right up your alley. Read postings carefully, and set yourself apart from the competition by being very specific in your quotes about your relevant experience and how it pertains to the job posted.

Set fees according to what you need to charge to make a living *and* take holidays, no less, and consider posting your rates in your profile. You risk not being taken seriously if your fees are too low.

Other than that, have your own website (free for platinums), and do offline marketing as well. Attend events, and network with others in the industry via KudoZ and other channels.

Good luck and happy translating.


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Sonja Allen  Identity Verified
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Look at what internet providers offer Sep 16, 2005

Bojana Prorok wrote:

I don't have a web site... how can i set it up?
Thanks for your help..

Amy Williams wrote:

Another good marketing tool is a website. It won't cost much and it's a great way to attract clients. Do you have one?


Webhosting and domain name came together with the broadband package from my internet provider which is really excellent value. You might want to look at the websites of various internet providers on what they offer. As with regards to creating your own website, you do not have to be a specialist web designer. There are excellent and affordable programs out there for the "beginner" with a lot of templates to choose from which you can adapt to your own liking. I used the programm Sitespinner (www.virtualmechanics.com) and you can look at their website for more information.


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BNG TRANSLATIONS
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My Profile Sep 16, 2005

Hello,
Thank you for your answers. I was just wondering, if you think my profile looks better now? I added more information.
Thank you
bojana


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New to the site - should I quote on jobs or wait for the employers to come to me? Sep 16, 2005

Bojana Prorok wrote:

can you give me some info on how can i establish contacts with employers.


Bojana,

This site primarily serves freelance translators (and interpreters). If you are looking for salaried employment as a translator, this is not the best place to look.

If you are trying to set up a translation business and are looking for customers, you are in the right place. In this case, though, I have to say that you're presenting yourself very badly.

For example:

Your presentation does not make you look like a proper business. Customers are not "employers". Although your CV says "Objective - freelance translator", it is a traditional CV such as one might send to a prospective employer (not customer). It largely contains information which customers are not interested in (e.g. "Superior human relations and communication skills") but is missing vital information for customers, such as specialist fields.

Your CV is riddled with typing and punctuation errors and is very badly formatted.

You offer to translate into four different languages. Even according to your own CV, your knowledge of one of those (Spanish) is "basic", so why are you offering to translate into it (or for that matter, from it)? The English in your CV also contains errors. Unfortunately, this means that even if your Serbo-Croat is perfect, you are signalling that you are unable to judge your own ability. In business, that's a luxury you can't afford: you are responsible for ensuring that the work you deliver is of an adequate standard.

Reputable customers will spot things like this and will be put off by them. You are then likely only to be contacted by cowboy outfits, if at all.

Building up a translation business from scratch is difficult for almost anyone, but the odds really are stacked against you at the moment. My advice: consider taking a salaried job, not necessarily as a translator, and launching yourself on the freelance market when you have more experience under your belt. Whatever form that experience takes - language, business, some sector of industry - it will be valuable to you. On the other hand, if you are determined to go freelance at this stage, I would strongly recommend that you join a professional translators' association which can advise you more comprehensively.

Marc


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Henry Dotterer
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Looking better already Sep 16, 2005

Your profile looks better, yes. Now, it is very important that you enter detailed fields: http://www.proz.com/?sp=settings_disciplines
If you do not enter fields using this page, your name will not appear when clients search the ProZ.com directory using detailed fields.


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sylvie malich
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Feedback Sep 16, 2005

Bojana Prorok wrote:

Hello,
Thank you for your answers. I was just wondering, if you think my profile looks better now? I added more information.
Thank you
bojana


Okay, for one, within the profile you indicate that Serbian is your native language, then your icon indicates English as your native language. Which is it?

If you're serious about presenting yourself as a business, provide a more serious image (and I mean nix the summer top and sunglasses on top of the head) of yourself!

sylvie


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