Edited machine translation wins award
Thread poster: Margaret Schroeder
Margaret Schroeder
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Aug 20, 2002

Broward County in Florida won an achievement award from the National Association of Counties for its trilingual website. Here are the French and Spanish versions. In the announcement of the award, we can read: \"The tran... See more
Broward County in Florida won an achievement award from the National Association of Counties for its trilingual website. Here are the French and Spanish versions. In the announcement of the award, we can read: \"The translations were performed utilizing translation software and then reviewed by several sources, such as: county employees, teachers, bilingual staff, etc., to ensure a quality product. [...] Out [sic] statistical data indicates that the combined Spanish and French versions now have more page views than the English version.\"Collapse


 
Pilar Megías
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Is that an award wining translation? Aug 20, 2002

Visit:

English version homepage:

http://www.co.broward.fl.us/agriculture/english/general/hurricane.htm



Spanish version homepage:

http://www.co.broward.fl.us/agriculture/spanish/general/hurricane.htm


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Visit:

English version homepage:

http://www.co.broward.fl.us/agriculture/english/general/hurricane.htm



Spanish version homepage:

http://www.co.broward.fl.us/agriculture/spanish/general/hurricane.htm



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The following text comes from the Spanish main page.



TRADUZCA LA PAGINA ACTUAL



EL INGLÉS

EL FRANCÉS



CHASQUEE SU BOTON DE ESPALDA PARA VOLVER A ESTA PAGINA





LA DENEGACION: El software del traductor se utilizó para la conversión de este sitio de Web, y aunque revisáramos la conversión para la certeza, los errores gramaticales secundarios pueden ocurrir. Sus comentarios se apreciarían. Por favor email: [email protected]





Food and Water



Children\'s Concerns



Landscape Preparations



Caring for Hurricane Damaged Home Landscape Plants



El huracán Preparedness para Edificios de tipo Propaganda



Los Edificios de la Granja que protegen de la Tempestad Enrollan



Cómo Aminorar el Daño de Viento en el Jardín del sur de la Florida



La Recuperación de Turf que promueve después de Huracánes



Difunda las Consideraciones de huracán para la Guardería Infantil Comercial



Comenzar las Cosechas Nuevas en Invernaderos Inundados/Shadehouses



Los Escombros que limpian de la Tierra



Cuidar de Escombros Inundados de Céspedes



Evaluar y Arboles de Paisaje que Tratan que Sigue un Huracán



Cuidar de Palmas Dañadas de Huracán



Los Arbustos Dañados de la Inundación que salvan y Ornamentals



La Sombra dañada, Ornamental, y Arboles de Fruta



Plante Arboles Detenidamente después de un Huracán



Salvar Desarraigó Parcialmente Arboles



La cadena Vio la Seguridad



El comején Actualiza - El resorte y el Verano



El agua La conservación En Las guarderías infantiles



En El Registro Animal Grande De la Línea



Dueños Del Caballo: Usted está preparado para la estación del huracán?



Kit Equino De la Evacuación Del Ganado



Kit De Primeros auxilios De Equine/Livestock



El Control de la peste

La gerencia estructural, del ser humano y del animal doméstico del insecto del parásito es una preocupación importante, y una industria enorme en el condado de Broward. Los parásitos tienen gusto de termitas, carpintero y otras hormigas, insectos venenosos, parásitos del insecto del ser humano y del animal doméstico, despensa e insectos de la tela, y una variedad de otros insectos del fastidio puede toda afectar nuestras vidas sobre una base periódica.

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Margaret Schroeder
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Mexico
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Spring shots Aug 20, 2002

Let me share a couple of examples from this \"award-winning\" site for those not lucky enough to include French or Spanish in their languages.



In an article on the importance of having your horse vaccinated for rabies in the spring, the sentence \"Now is the time for spring shots\" made it into Spanish as \"Ahora sea el tiempo para disparos de resorte.\"



The word used here for \"shots\" means shots from a gun, and the word used for \"spring\" means some
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Let me share a couple of examples from this \"award-winning\" site for those not lucky enough to include French or Spanish in their languages.



In an article on the importance of having your horse vaccinated for rabies in the spring, the sentence \"Now is the time for spring shots\" made it into Spanish as \"Ahora sea el tiempo para disparos de resorte.\"



The word used here for \"shots\" means shots from a gun, and the word used for \"spring\" means something springy or elastic, such as a coiled wire spring or an elastic band.



\"Back button\", as in click on to go back, is \"the button on your back\" in Spanish, and \"backside button\" in French!



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Silvina Beatriz Codina
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Argentina
Local time: 22:46
English to Spanish
¡No manera! (That is "no way for ya) Aug 20, 2002

Jeez on a Pony! Who gives these awards???



The most amazing thing, is that \"la denegación\" (the Disclaimer, I guess) claims that the text is revised (or \"may be revised,\" who knows what they mean?) for accuracy, but \"secondary\" errors may occur Revised by whom? By the same guy who gave this an award?



And they add that \"my comments would be appreciated,\" and they give their email. Well, if they
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Jeez on a Pony! Who gives these awards???



The most amazing thing, is that \"la denegación\" (the Disclaimer, I guess) claims that the text is revised (or \"may be revised,\" who knows what they mean?) for accuracy, but \"secondary\" errors may occur Revised by whom? By the same guy who gave this an award?



And they add that \"my comments would be appreciated,\" and they give their email. Well, if they really would appreciate my comments... they are going to get them, all right!



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José Luis Villanueva-Senchuk (X)
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Argentina
Local time: 22:46
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Gonna cry...or should I go out and drink?!?!? Aug 20, 2002

Hola,



I can see myself inside the booth and a mechanical cold voice saying \"Please, beep! get the %%=?%&? out. I am the interpreting replacement for you...beep! beep!\"



Cheers,



JL

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John Kinory (X)
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Not as long as there are some sane clients around :-) Aug 20, 2002

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On 2002-08-20 17:22, Pepelu wrote:

I can see myself inside the booth and a mechanical cold voice saying \"Please, beep! get the %%=?%&? out. I am the interpreting replacement for you...beep! beep!\"





Was it a rude word you edited out (where the nice punctuation marks now appear)? )



Seriously, I don\'t think we need to w... See more
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On 2002-08-20 17:22, Pepelu wrote:

I can see myself inside the booth and a mechanical cold voice saying \"Please, beep! get the %%=?%&? out. I am the interpreting replacement for you...beep! beep!\"





Was it a rude word you edited out (where the nice punctuation marks now appear)? )



Seriously, I don\'t think we need to worry too much.
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Margaret Schroeder
Margaret Schroeder  Identity Verified
Mexico
Local time: 19:46
Spanish to English
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"Edited" Aug 20, 2002

One more comment, and then I really should get back to work. I started this thread with the title \"Machine translation wins award\", but a moderator added the word \"Edited\".



Well, I don\'t know if taking the editing into consideration makes it better or worse! True, many of the howlers on this site are clearly a result of machine translation.



But the texts were then reviewed by \"several sources, such as: county employees, teachers, bilingual staff,
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One more comment, and then I really should get back to work. I started this thread with the title \"Machine translation wins award\", but a moderator added the word \"Edited\".



Well, I don\'t know if taking the editing into consideration makes it better or worse! True, many of the howlers on this site are clearly a result of machine translation.



But the texts were then reviewed by \"several sources, such as: county employees, teachers, bilingual staff, etc., to ensure a quality product\". So this also says something about depending on non-translators for quality assurance in a translation. Even a non-speaker could have identified some of the errors just by cross-checking in a set of dictionaries! It boggles my mind.
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Karin Adamczyk (X)
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Canada
Local time: 21:46
French to English
I don't understand Aug 20, 2002

It sounds like people are surprised at the quality of the text.



It seems to me we should be happy with such awards as they clearly show that machine translation and revisions by non-professionals prove the point that there is no substitute for a professional translator. We really don\'t need to spend time analyzing these things -- lets just enjoy the fact that machine translation (and revision by non-professionals) speaks for itself.



Or, am I missing so
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It sounds like people are surprised at the quality of the text.



It seems to me we should be happy with such awards as they clearly show that machine translation and revisions by non-professionals prove the point that there is no substitute for a professional translator. We really don\'t need to spend time analyzing these things -- lets just enjoy the fact that machine translation (and revision by non-professionals) speaks for itself.



Or, am I missing something?
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Parrot
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no MANERA!!! Aug 21, 2002



 
Mats Wiman
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Award?? Aug 21, 2002

for whom?

It\'s evident: They are indirectly awarding our profession!


 


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