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Why could I not use KudoZ in China?
Tracy Huang  Identity Verified
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Jun 18, 2010

I became a member yesterday, but I still could not use Kudoz. I wonder why. Is it becuase I am in mainland China?

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Arianne Farah  Identity Verified
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Yes... Jun 18, 2010

You'll need a VPN to access Kudoz from the mainland. I pay 60$ a year for Witopia, it's a little slow so forget YouTube but for everything else it's fine. As to why Kudoz is blocked, who knows!

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Cheng Peng  Identity Verified
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why? Jun 19, 2010

some guys from China cheated on KudoZ points and fought against each other with offensive words ………

that may explain why access to KudoZ from China is blocked ....


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Germaine  Identity Verified
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You might like to... Jun 19, 2010


Arianne Farah wrote:

...it's a little slow so forget YouTube but for everything else it's fine.


...install this : http://youtubedownload.altervista.org/

Easy and effective!


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Stanislaw Czech  Identity Verified
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Misunderstanding Jun 20, 2010


Cheng Peng wrote:

some guys from China cheated on KudoZ points and fought against each other with offensive words ………

that may explain why access to KudoZ from China is blocked ....


Actually I don't think that it explains blocking access to millions of potential users - for that we have moderators on each forum.

Anyway how it could upset Chinese government is beyond my comprehension.

Stanislaw

PS: I just realized that maybe you were joking - if so I apologize - I somehow missed the joke.


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Tracy Huang  Identity Verified
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Thank you for all your replies Jun 21, 2010

Hi,guys.Thank you for all your replies. I'm working on it. Hope I can get this problem solved.

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Cheng Peng  Identity Verified
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maybe it's not a joke ;) Jul 7, 2010


Stanislaw Czech wrote:


Cheng Peng wrote:

some guys from China cheated on KudoZ points and fought against each other with offensive words ………

that may explain why access to KudoZ from China is blocked ....


Actually I don't think that it explains blocking access to millions of potential users - for that we have moderators on each forum.

Anyway how it could upset Chinese government is beyond my comprehension.

Stanislaw

PS: I just realized that maybe you were joking - if so I apologize - I somehow missed the joke.


As far as I know, it's ProZ that blocked access from China for those reasons mentioned. I wish the guy who told me so was joking ==


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Bin Tiede  Identity Verified
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My observation Jul 7, 2010

I have been participating on KudoZ for almost 3 years, since 2007.

In late 2008, the name of a banned opposition party (in China) was asked on KudoZ, since the asker had no access to Wikepedia, therefore could not find out the name by himself; someone provided an answer with a link to this party. At the same time, quite a few Tibet-related questions appeared there, even the German text for the contest in that year was about Tibet, despite of my disapproval (I submitted a support ticket to ask the organizer to change the text, but it was too late). I think these made Proz.com, especially KudoZ, not appear to be a pure academic site in the eye of the Chinese government.

Meanwhile some Proz.com activists have contacted different Chinese authorities, including Chinese translators' association, to have the ban lifted, but no authority admits to be responsible for Proz.com and KudoZ.


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Madeleine MacRae Klintebo  Identity Verified
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Just out of general interest/curiosity Jul 7, 2010


Bin Tiede wrote:

At the same time, quite a few Tibet-related questions appeared there, even the German text for the contest in that year was about Tibet, despite of my disapproval (I submitted a support ticket to ask the organizer to change the text, but it was too late).

Why do you disapprove of texts relating to this subject?


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Ronald van der Linden  Identity Verified
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ask proz support center Jul 7, 2010

http://www.proz.com/support/

(in case you haven't asked)


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Neil Coffey  Identity Verified
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Just being practical... Jul 7, 2010


Madeleine MacRae Klintebo wrote:


Bin Tiede wrote:

At the same time, quite a few Tibet-related questions appeared there, even the German text for the contest in that year was about Tibet, despite of my disapproval (I submitted a support ticket to ask the organizer to change the text, but it was too late).

Why do you disapprove of texts relating to this subject?


As I understand, it's not so much that the poster particularly disapproves per se, their point is just "whatever you think ideologically, just for the sake of being practical and preventing Chinese people from having to go to the trouble of using a VPN to access the site, please don't put content on ProZ that might cause the Chinese government to ban it".


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saralap  Identity Verified
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Interactive content Jul 8, 2010

In response to Neil Coffey's practicality question: I'm not sure we can solve this problem by self-censorship, or self-editing if you will.

In my experience, sites get blocked from China for two main reasons: having politically sensitive content, and having user-provided content of any kind (e.g. blogs, forums, Wikipedia, Facebook). It is not 100% in either case, and a site's fate varies over time. It is really hard to guess in advance what will cause the Chinese government to block a site. For instance, we are using the word "Tibet" in this discussion, yet I am able to see it from China without a VPN.

In any case, using a VPN is becoming more and more necessary for anyone in China who has any connection with the outside world. It's not only Kudoz. So, at least as far as discussions of terminology are concerned, I would say post whatever you need to post.


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Bin Tiede  Identity Verified
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An old discussion in the Chinese forum Jul 8, 2010

http://www.proz.com/forum/chinese/127553-kudoz_inaccessibility_once_more.html

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Kim Metzger  Identity Verified
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How to test the great firewall Jul 9, 2010

Go to http://www.websitepulse.com/help/testtools.china-test.html

Enter the URL of a site to see if it is blocked.

For example: http://www.proz.com/kudoz/

Status: Failure in receiving network data


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