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Suggestion: A filter for hiding questions posted by certain askers?
Thread poster: Cilian O'Tuama

Cilian O'Tuama
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Jul 16, 2005

I posted something similar in January 2003 (http://www.proz.com/topic/8036).

Because of the ever-growing number of site abusers, I would love to have a filter with which I could hide all questions from those askers I am not willing to help (any longer).

The default setting would of course let all questions through. If I think Members X and Y are abusing the system, I enter X and Y. Maybe a couple of other options should also be available, e.g. "hide all Qs from askers who are not logged in". When the overview page appears, all their questions are invisible (but only to me) and remain invisible until I remove their names from my private list.

I think this would be an improvement.

Ciao,
Cilian


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Henry Hinds  Identity Verified
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One solution... Jul 16, 2005

Just indicate that you do not want any notification of questions at all. I don't remember exactly where I did this, but in that way I get no e-mails on questions but I can go to the list at any time and see what's there.

You're in a popular pair so you'll probably find new questions all the time and also cut the number of e-mails you receive.

Those in low-volume pairs would probably want notification of all questions.


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Lars Jelking  Identity Verified
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Asker filtering. Jul 16, 2005

I member thinks a question is abusive or offensive she/he should call for a moderator.

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Kim Metzger  Identity Verified
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A filter for hiding questions posted by certain askers Jul 16, 2005

Cilian O'Tuama wrote:

Because of the ever-growing number of site abusers, I would love to have a filter with which I could hide all questions from those askers I am not willing to help (any longer).

Cilian


I like getting KudoZ notifications while I'm working. It's often a welcome distraction from my work, and I tell myself that at the same time I'm doing something to improve my translating and research skills. It's kind of like a second office. I'm a huge fan of KudoZ for those reasons and because the glossaries are a treasure trove of some of the best solutions and discussions of terms available. How much better it is to read the explanations that accompany the translations proposed by outstanding specialists in the legal, technical, financial, medical fields than to look something up in a dictionary.

But I agree with Cilian that KudoZ would be much better as a translator's workplace/office if there were a way to filter out the time-wasters who provide no context, refuse to respond to requests for context, ask questions already in the KudoZ glossaries or in standard print and online dictionaries, close their questions within minutes, or who are translating documents they are not qualifed to translate. I could spend my time more efficiently if we had a system like the one Cilian is proposing. Then I would only get notifications of questions that are more likely to be interesting and challenging.

[Edited at 2005-07-17 17:58]

[Edited at 2005-07-17 17:59]


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Geneviève von Levetzow  Identity Verified
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What... Jul 16, 2005

... a Great Idea! Cilian, I agree 100%.

Geneviève:)


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Cilian O'Tuama
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Addendum Jul 16, 2005

Henry Hinds wrote:

Just indicate that you do not want any notification of questions at all. I don't remember exactly where I did this, but in that way I get no e-mails on questions but I can go to the list at any time and see what's there.


I've long switched off all notifications because of the number of Qs. I'd like to be able to choose (even) more specifically.

[Edited at 2005-07-16 23:59]


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paula13  Identity Verified
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Maybe it's a little too much Jul 16, 2005

Henry Hinds wrote:

Just indicate that you do not want any notification of questions at all. I don't remember exactly where I did this, but in that way I get no e-mails on questions but I can go to the list at any time and see what's there.

You're in a popular pair so you'll probably find new questions all the time and also cut the number of e-mails you receive.

Those in low-volume pairs would probably want notification of all questions.


Like Henry says you can simply choose who you want to help by not getting notifications, and when you visit the Kudoz list just look at who posted the question and then decide if you want to answer or not. Wouldn't filtering certain people out be a little too much?
There was a comment about people who are not qualified for certain translations or ask "easy" questions, honestly I'm surprised by some people's need to ask certain questions too, but I think it's not fair to judge or jump to conclusions. Maybe they're not unqualified, maybe they're just in school and need help on a project, maybe they're language learners who want to gain better reading comprehension skills.
Proz mission statement reads:
"ProZ.com's second set of goals is human. We pledge to:
bridge language barriers through education and services, and
respect and protect the diversity of human language."
Kudoz are an extraordinary educational tool that everyone has a right to use. Why not assume the best in people and help each other learn? If you’re not 100% comfortable with that, you can simply exercise your right to choose.


[Edited at 2005-07-16 23:31]


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Cilian O'Tuama
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My right to choose Jul 16, 2005

paula arturo wrote:

Proz mission statement reads:
"ProZ.com's second set of goals is human. We pledge to:
bridge language barriers through education and services, and
respect and protect the diversity of human language."


Hello Paula,

I don't see a contradiction.

Kudoz are an extraordinary educational tool that everyone has a right to use. Why not assume the best in people and help each other learn? If you’re not 100% comfortable with that, you can simply exercise your right to choose.


[Edited at 2005-07-16 23:31]


Maybe I haven't expressed myself clearly, it happens me all the time.

That's all I'm asking for, my "right to choose". I want to "choose" whose questions appear (or rather, don't appear) on my screen.

Thanks for your input.

Ciao,
Cilian

[Edited at 2005-07-16 23:55]

[Edited at 2005-07-17 00:03]


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Kim Metzger  Identity Verified
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A filter for hiding questions posted by certain askers Jul 17, 2005

paula arturo wrote:

There was a comment about people who are not qualified for certain translations or ask "easy" questions, honestly I'm surprised by some people's need to ask certain questions too, but I think it's not fair to judge or jump to conclusions. Maybe they're not unqualified, maybe they're just in school and need help on a project, maybe they're language learners who want to gain better reading comprehension skills.



Hi Paula, I agree with you entirely that it's great to be able to help language learners, students, beginning translators, etc. I do it all the time. We all have to start somewhere, and when I started translating five years ago I was very grateful for the help I received in KudoZ.

But for this discussion, it's important to distinguish between Pro-level questions and Non-Pro questions. Members can already filter out Non-Pro questions if they so choose. I don't think Cilian is referring to language learners asking Non-Pro level questions but to questions asked on the Pro level by people who have clearly demonstrated over several weeks that they are not yet ready to be working professionally. This recent forum thread describes the situation well:

http://www.proz.com/topic/34601

I would prefer not to see Pro-level questions from members who have accepted jobs they are clearly not qualified to do.




[Edited at 2005-07-17 00:46]


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paula13  Identity Verified
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I guess you're right... Jul 17, 2005

Kim Metzger wrote:


But for this discussion, it's important to distinguish between Pro-level questions and Non-Pro questions. Members can already filter out Non-Pro questions if they so choose. I don't think Cilian is referring to language learners asking Non-Pro level questions but about questions asked on the Pro level by people who have clearly demonstrated over several weeks that they are not yet ready to be working professionally. This recent forum thread describes the situation well:

http://www.proz.com/topic/34601

I would prefer not to see Pro-level questions from members who have accepted jobs they are clearly not qualified to do.




Hi Kim,
I took a look at the thread you provided and I agree with you 100%. I thought we were including Non-Pro questions in this discussion as well. I guess it's just hard for me to believe people would take on jobs they cleary can't handle, but they do.
Thanks for your feedback!
Paula


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Cilian O'Tuama
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...or not to see Jul 17, 2005

Kim Metzger wrote:
I would prefer not to see Pro-level questions from members who have accepted jobs they are clearly not qualified to do.


Hi Kim - That's part of it alright, with "see" being the appropriate word.


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writeaway  Identity Verified

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the countdown for the 15 questions-a-day "limit" has started Jul 17, 2005

Cilian O'Tuama wrote:

I posted something similar in January 2003 (http://www.proz.com/topic/8036).

Because of the ever-growing number of site abusers, I would love to have a filter with which I could hide all questions from those askers I am not willing to help (any longer).


Cilian


Abusers ??? well, in theory and (unfortunately) in practice, anyone who wants to post 105 questions every week will soon be very welcome to do so, provided they have paid their 120 $/€ admission fee to cover costs.
I am Platinum for a whole different set of reasons. If implemented as planned, this 15 questions a day limit will do the site a great deal of harm. Does anyone really think that pro translators are going to just accept being abused in this way? Because one thing is virtually certain: no bona fide pro translator will be found among the 15-questions-a-day "Askers".
my opinion.


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Catherine Bolton  Identity Verified
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Filtering certain askers... Jul 17, 2005

I've also posted a reply on the forum Kim mentioned:
http://www.proz.com/topic/34601
What about these folks? I no longer receive emails about Kudoz precisely because of things like this.
Here's my other posting. I've listed it twice because these two subjects cross over.

Take a look here!
http://www.proz.com/kudoz/1091003
Asking question after question and never bothering to close ONE! I looked at the askers track record and the oldest unclosed question goes back to nearly a year ago! If that ain't abuse...!

Catherine
PS: Problems like this are one of the reasons I'm no longer platinum.

[Edited at 2005-07-17 12:52]


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Christel Zipfel  Identity Verified
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E-mail-filter could be a solution in the meantime... Jul 17, 2005

I understand what you mean, Cilian, and I realize it's not the same.

I had first my e-mail program filter the names of persons I did not like to see any more (and there are...).

Then, for reasons that have nothing to do with ProZ, I switched off completely all notifications. It was to be only for a short period, but I am still keeping on... I feel quite happy with this! I find very useful that you can see now the names of the askers in the main page of the question list. So you can at least ignore the questions of whoever you want.

But the filter that you have in mind would be really great!


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Patricia Lutteral  Identity Verified
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Great idea Jul 17, 2005

I fully agree with Cilian. The EN-ES SC is a clear example of abuse of the site, and I think Nikki Graham described it very well on http://www.proz.com/topic/34601.

I switched off notifications a long time ago, and even stopped answering questions at all; lately I've tried to get in touch again, but it's rather disappointing.

paula arturo wrote:

Wouldn't filtering certain people out be a little too much?

There was a comment about people who are not qualified for certain translations or ask "easy" questions, honestly I'm surprised by some people's need to ask certain questions too, but I think it's not fair to judge or jump to conclusions. Maybe they're not unqualified, maybe they're just in school and need help on a project, maybe they're language learners who want to gain better reading comprehension skills.

Proz mission statement reads:
"ProZ.com's second set of goals is human. We pledge to:
bridge language barriers through education and services, and
respect and protect the diversity of human language."
Kudoz are an extraordinary educational tool that everyone has a right to use. Why not assume the best in people and help each other learn? If you’re not 100% comfortable with that, you can simply exercise your right to choose.


[Edited at 2005-07-16 23:31]


I don't think so; I'd love to hide not only high Q/A ratios, but empty profiles and lousy rates too. I don't want to help someone who can't spend 10 minutes telling their colleagues who they are, or a kamikaze pilot who may have grabbed a job from me or any other real pro and then wants to have it done for free.

And as regards students needing help with a project, posting each and every question they have IMHO is not getting help; maybe I'm getting old, but I think it's cheating. And giving them the job done is not helping them either: they need to study and practice their own research skills. And if they're doing a translation test...well, no comments

Language learners in need of improving their reading comprehension skills? First, this site is for professional translators; there are others for language learners. And frankly, I don't think you read a highly technical text in a foreign language to improve your comprehension skills. For simpler texts, grab the dictionary.

Someone suggested politely telling the asker to Google their doubts or check any dictionary; guys, take a tour to the EN-ES section: some people are simply bullet-proof.

Just in case anybody is wondering, in five years or so I've asked 17 questions and answered 1600. I really enjoy helping colleagues, and I do think Kudoz is a great tool; but dumb questions get dumb answers, you know, and the asker can't tell the difference...you should see the kind of thing that is getting into the EN-ES glossaries in these days...

Best regards,

Patricia


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