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HTML notice of KudoZ.NET questions not needed
Thread poster: xxxjsl
xxxjsl
Local time: 04:44
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Dec 7, 2002

I have just notice that recent KudoZ notices (from today?) are in the HTML format. This seems to use italics and bolds in the notice. But, I don\'t think I need them. It is just a waste of resource. I know that each notice is still small (around 1K), but that is not going to be a reason to keep using it. Those italics and bolds are just subtle, and have no practical effects. I prefer the former, plain format.



If we can choose the format of e-mail notices (HTML or non-HTML), it would be better, as we find this function in many other pages.



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Endre Both  Identity Verified
Germany
Local time: 20:44
Member (2002)
English to German
Let's have plain text back, pleeez Dec 7, 2002

...since apart from the reasons quoted by Daisuke, some mail programs still don\'t treat HTML properly. For reasons of security and simplicity, I have HTML display turned off by default, and I wouldn\'t like to have to turn it on only because of Proz.



So IF HTML mails are here to stay, please either give an option in our mail preferences which lets us choose between plain text and HTML or include both formats in the same mail (don\'t ask me how to do it, I just know that I routinely receive such mails ).



I hope Daisuke and me are not the only ones who are very conservative in this regard...



Thanks a lot in advance!!



Endre

EB Communications


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Hermann Bruns  Identity Verified
Local time: 20:44
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HTML notice needed! Dec 7, 2002

Hello Daisuke, hello Endre,



actually, we need HTML notice because the KudoZ.NET tool uses Unicode and because the site will soon probably also use Unicode (to finally get rid of the encoding mess). To make sure that the terms are displayed correctly we have to use HTML because only HTML can handle Unicode properly.



When I made the change I put emphasis on adding only very few tags so that the size of the mail remains small and also non-HTMLers still get the message.



Endre, your suggestion to send both HTML an non-HTML is very good. In fact, I thought that this is done already, but there might be a bug/mistake in the code.



Best regards

Hermann


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Endre Both  Identity Verified
Germany
Local time: 20:44
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OK Dec 7, 2002

Hi Hermann,



Thanks for your swift reply to our complaints. If Unicode (and HTML mails) are needed to sort out encoding problems, that\'s perfectly fine.



If you think I can provide you with more information in order to sort out the bug regarding the combination of HTML and plain text, I\'d be glad to help.



Thanks again

Endre

EB Communications


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Hermann Bruns  Identity Verified
Local time: 20:44
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HTML only when needed Dec 7, 2002

Hello Daisuke, hello Endre,



according to your wishes kudoz notifications are now sent in plain text again - except if HTML is needed (e.g. if a question came from KudoZ.NET and was saved in Unicode).



If an HTML notification is sent, the alternitive non HTML message should now also be sent correctly (without tags). Please let me know, when you notice that this is not the case.



Have a nice weekend!

Hermann







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Endre Both  Identity Verified
Germany
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It works! Dec 7, 2002

Both HTML and plain text work now, once again a big thank you to Hermann!

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xxxjsl
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Thanks, but ... Dec 8, 2002

Hermann, thanks for your help.



But, I have another suggestion. According to the discussion above, the HTML notice is to use unicode. I asked a question to KudoZ a couple of minutes ago, and I received an \"OK!\" notice since I am the asker of the question. But, this notice is in the HTML format. I asked a Japanese-English question, and I used double-byte characters. in my question, since Japanese uses double-byte characters. Formerly, when that kind of notice was sent in the plain (i.e., non-HTML) format, there was no garble. But, this time in the HTML format, those Japanese (i.e., double-byte) characters are all garbled. Part of the reason is because there is no character setting in the e-mail. In fact, the header has a \"Content-Type\" line, and it is \"multipart/alternative\". Previously, since it was not in the HTML format, I think there was no charset in the header, and the mail application could display Japanese words since it usually convert non-charset e-mail to the Japanese encoding.



Can somebody (maybe Hermann) fix this problem, as Hermann could change the format?



Thanks.



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Hermann Bruns  Identity Verified
Local time: 20:44
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Yes, I can... Dec 9, 2002

Hello Daisuke,



of course I can switch back to plain text also for the email which is sent to the asker, if this is necessary. I will do this right now.



Hermann


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