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Euro or Euros?

Tom in London
United Kingdom
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Jul 13, 2010

The only English-speaking country in the Eurozone is Ireland. I'm Irish.

In Ireland. the official term for a multiple of € is "Euro" in the singular. This is the term used in all mainstream Irish media, such as TV news etc., e.g. "thirty billion Euro".

So why do the British (who are not in the Eurozone) use "Euros" in the plural?

In written form I find "Euros" very strange-looking. It looks like a Greek word.

What's correct? Who decides? Is there an official EU ruling on this? What word do official EU interpreters use?

[Edited at 2010-07-13 08:36 GMT]


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Teresa Borges
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Euro or Euros? Jul 13, 2010

In all EU legal texts, the nominative singular spelling must be 'euro' in all languages ('ευρώ' in Greek alphabet; 'евро' in Cyrillic alphabet). Plural forms and declensions are accepted as long as they do not change the 'eur-' root.
http://ec.europa.eu/economy_finance/euro/cash/symbol/index_en.htm


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Tom in London
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Teresa Borges wrote:.....Plural forms and declensions are accepted as long as they do not change the 'eur-' root.....


Thanks Teresa- that's a really useful link. From it I deduce that both "Euro" and "Euros" are acceptable as the plural. Since "Euro" comes more naturally to me I'll stick with it, for the singular *and* the plural.

Many thanks.


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Victor Dewsbery  Identity Verified
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Going round in circles? Jul 13, 2010

Hi Tom,

Thanks for the interesting facts about English usage in Ireland.

Linguistically, it would seem that if we say "ten euro" (or capitalised "ten Euro") we should also say "ten dollar" and "ten pound" (or "ten Dollar" and "ten Pound"). The uninflected plural "euro" (or Euro) in some cases in English originates from a general multilingual directive that the currency should not take a plural _s in any language. My assumption was that this was decided by people whose native language is not English and who therefore did not realise how incongruous this appears (appeared?) in native English.

I have seen various EU style guides which try to provide pragmatic guidance on this. The central proposal I remember from earlier documents is to use an uninflected plural in documents intended for use by EU bureaucrats, but to use "euros" (inflected and not capitalised) for general readers.

The present EU style guide at http://ec.europa.eu/translation/writing/style_guides/english/style_guide_en.pdf (which is the first hit if you search Google for "EU style guide") includes the following comments:


(P. 30/31)
3.2 Always use figures with units of measurement that are denoted by symbols or
abbreviations:
EUR 50 or fifty euros
3.3 With hundred and thousand there is a choice of using figures or words:
EUR 3 000 or three thousand euros but not EUR 3 thousand

(P. 88)
20.8 The euro. Like ‘pound’, ‘dollar’ or any other currency name in English, the
word ‘euro’ is written in lower case with no initial capital. Where appropriate,
it takes the plural ‘s’ (as does ‘cent’):
This book costs ten euros and fifty cents
However, in documents and tables where monetary amounts figure largely,
make maximum use of the € symbol or the abbreviation EUR.


Your report on Irish usage offers an interesting new perspective on this debate.


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Tom in London
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General usage Jul 13, 2010


Victor Dewsbery wrote:

Hi Tom,

Thanks for the interesting facts about English usage in Ireland.


Hi Victor- if you click on the link posted by Teresa and scroll down, you'll find there's an official pdf you can download.

That pdf clearly states that in English, the plural of "euro" is "euro" .

I also note from these links that "euro" is NOT capitalised.




[Edited at 2010-07-13 09:42 GMT]


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Teresa Borges
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Euro or euros Jul 13, 2010

Rules for expressing monetary units

When to use the name (euro)
When a monetary unit is referred to generally but an amount is not included, it is written in letters, except in tables (see ‘When to use the ISO code (EUR)’):

an amount in euros
a sum in pounds sterling

http://publications.europa.eu/code/en/en-370303.htm


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Tom in London
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Euro Jul 13, 2010

A headline from today's "Irish Times" (the most stylistically correct Irish daily newspaper):

"The taxpayer is facing a bill of potentially hundreds of millions of euro for the now worthless Irish Glass Bottle site in Dublin"


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