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Fernando Toledo  Identity Verified
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Jan 3, 2004

How can I use the csv Files from the Microsoft Glossaries in Trados (as TM or as Multiterm) or in Deja Vu?
Thks!


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xxxBrandis
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MS-glossaries conversion Jan 3, 2004

Toledo wrote:

How can I use the csv Files from the Microsoft Glossaries in Trados (as TM or as Multiterm) or in Deja Vu?
Thks!
Hi! There is a small tool called CSV2TXT, with this you can convert CSV format to regular ascii, from here you are free to integrate into any TMX. There are a few thousand such tools.

Hope this helps
Brandis


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Fernando Toledo  Identity Verified
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So easy? Jan 3, 2004

You think I only need to create a Txt file (can I do with Excel too), but where are the segments delimiters that Trados create with each segment? you mean I can simply import the text file into a new TM?
well I'll try it.
Thks
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brandis wrote:

Toledo wrote:

How can I use the csv Files from the Microsoft Glossaries in Trados (as TM or as Multiterm) or in Deja Vu?
Thks!
Hi! There is a small tool called CSV2TXT, with this you can convert CSV format to regular ascii, from here you are free to integrate into any TMX. There are a few thousand such tools.

Hope this helps
Brandis


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xxxBrandis
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further examples Jan 3, 2004

Toledo wrote:

You think I only need to create a Txt file (can I do with Excel too), but where are the segments delimiters that Trados create with each segment? you mean I can simply import the text file into a new TM?
well I'll try it.
Thks
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brandis wrote:

Toledo wrote:

How can I use the csv Files from the Microsoft Glossaries in Trados (as TM or as Multiterm) or in Deja Vu?
Thks!
Hi! There is a small tool called CSV2TXT, with this you can convert CSV format to regular ascii, from here you are free to integrate into any TMX. There are a few thousand such tools.

Hope this helps
Brandis
Hi! You process these files just as though you are processing any file that needs to be translated. Even in any of these CAT tools the original file generally is internally converted into some ascii ( since it is universal ) then into .rtf for the purpose of further processing. So when you sit on the computer you normally have a text in .rtf file which can be further processed. The rest is more or less a format which is typical and differs from CAT to CAT. Atleast it is functioning in my situation. There is a wonderful Forum at the yahoogroups, where you would find a wide variety of continued issues. I hope this could also help.
Regards,
Brandis

[Edited at 2004-01-03 21:14]


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Harry Bornemann  Identity Verified
Mexico
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Not with Excel Jan 3, 2004

Excel cannot take enough records to process the MS glossaries.
I used Access for pre-processing - the filter functionality is useful to select and delete the garbage (~50%).
Then I used Perl to create a MultiTerm import file. Now the import files can also be created without any programming by using Déjà Vu X. A TM can be created in the same way.

BTW, it's a bit tricky:
Access Text fields can take only 255 characters, so some entries will be cut off.
Memo fields can take much more, but they cannot be filtered or sorted.
So you'd have to import the colums twice: one as Text and one as Memo, then filter and sort the records using the Text fields and finally export the Memo fields of the remaining records..

[Edited at 2004-01-03 23:27]


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xxxBrandis
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Congratulations and thanks Jan 3, 2004

Harry_B wrote:

Excel cannot take enough records to process the MS glossaries.
I used Access for pre-processing - the filter functionality is useful to select and delete the garbage (~50%).
Then I used Perl to create a MultiTerm import file. Now the import files can also be created without any programming by using Déjà Vu X. A TM can be created in the same way.
Hi! I congratulate you on your success, where I was achieving same effect using CSV2TXT tool.And thank you for an alternative solution. I use these conversions as read-only or only as look-up files for cross correction. Once in a while I do a periodical update.Anyway, alle Wege führen nach Rom.
Brandis

[Edited at 2004-01-03 23:05]


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Victor Sidelnikov  Identity Verified
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Special program for conversion Jan 4, 2004

Toledo wrote:

How can I use the csv Files from the Microsoft Glossaries in Trados (as TM or as Multiterm) or in Deja Vu?
Thks!


I wrote a simple utilite for this purpose (convertion from csv to tmw and mtw files of Trados)and for this object (Microsoft glossaries at the first place). I can send you this prigramm but for running of this programm needs Visual Basic on computer.


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xxxBrandis
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your tool Jan 4, 2004

Victor Sidelnikov wrote:

Toledo wrote:

How can I use the csv Files from the Microsoft Glossaries in Trados (as TM or as Multiterm) or in Deja Vu?
Thks!


I wrote a simple utilite for this purpose (convertion from csv to tmw and mtw files of Trados)and for this object (Microsoft glossaries at the first place). I can send you this prigramm but for running of this programm needs Visual Basic on computer.
Hi! I work also with Visual Basic, and Dot Net Frame work. Then please send your development to mailid - bandis@language.proz.com

would interest me. Thank you in advance. brandis


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xxxBrandis
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thanks Jan 5, 2004

Victor Sidelnikov wrote:

Toledo wrote:

How can I use the csv Files from the Microsoft Glossaries in Trados (as TM or as Multiterm) or in Deja Vu?
Thks!


I wrote a simple utilite for this purpose (convertion from csv to tmw and mtw files of Trados)and for this object (Microsoft glossaries at the first place). I can send you this prigramm but for running of this programm needs Visual Basic on computer.
Hi! I shall get back after checking your tool, well thanks in advance. I have just now downloaded it, and got to get to working on a large document. Wish me success. brandis


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CELC Inc
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I'm interested in that utility, too Jan 30, 2004

I would be interested in your conversion utility, too. If you wouldn't mind, please send a copy to: hopson@celc.co.jp

Thank you


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xxxBrandis
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hope you have received the tool Jan 30, 2004

hopson wrote:

I would be interested in your conversion utility, too. If you wouldn't mind, please send a copy to: hopson@celc.co.jp

Thank you
Hi! I have just sent one tools for such conversion. That should help your conversion trouble.

Best of luck
brandis


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Ashok Bagri  Identity Verified
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Utility for csv files conversion inTrados Jan 30, 2004

Victor Sidelnikov wrote:

Toledo wrote:

How can I use the csv Files from the Microsoft Glossaries in Trados (as TM or as Multiterm) or in Deja Vu?
Thks!


I wrote a simple utilite for this purpose (convertion from csv to tmw and mtw files of Trados)and for this object (Microsoft glossaries at the first place). I can send you this prigramm but for running of this programm needs Visual Basic on computer.


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Ashok Bagri  Identity Verified
India
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Utility for csv files conversion inTrados Jan 30, 2004

[quote]Victor Sidelnikov wrote:

Toledo wrote:


I wrote a simple utilite for this purpose (convertion from csv to tmw and mtw files of Trados)and for this object (Microsoft glossaries at the first place). I can send you this prigramm but for running of this programm needs Visual Basic on computer.


Dear Victor,

Can you pl. send a copy of the utility (with instructions for use) to my email id:

transinfo@vsnl.com . This would be a great help.


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Noe Tessmann  Identity Verified
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glossaries in MultiTerm Feb 1, 2004

Harry_B wrote:

Excel cannot take enough records to process the MS glossaries.


Once I did the work to open the csv files in Excel, delete some columns and write headers to create MultiTerm import files, with the conversion tool or T-Window,
just the big files like Windows are too big for Excel, the others are OK,
for the big ones I opened them as txt and cut the half of it, this is maybe not the best way,
so I imported all the glossaries in a MultiTerm database, in my case English German, and afterwards I did the same with French - English, and you can import them with the option "synchronize on index field" so you can have at the end a more or less trilingual glossary.

but there must be better ways, there is also something on the market to browse the glossaries www.msgbrowser.com
with an evaluation version


cheers

Noe


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