Samuel Murray Netherlands Local time: 19:37 Member (2006) English to Afrikaans + ...
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On Virtaal as TBX editor
Apr 5, 2010
UserOne wrote:
Virtaal (without OmegaT) can edit both TBX and TMX and runs under Windows Linux and MAC OS.
Virtaal can edit the existing entries in existing TBX files, but you can't create new TBX files or add new entries or delete entries from TBX files with it. It's like having a word processor (for MS Word or OOo Writer) that allows you to edit existing Word or Writer files, but does not allow you to create new files or to add or delete paragraphs from existing Word or Writer files.
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FarkasAndras Hungary Local time: 19:37 English to Hungarian + ...
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Apr 5, 2010
If you need something that can create TBX files from some standard format (tab delimited txt, ideally) and still haven't found the right solution, perhaps I can help you.
I wrote a TMX creator for my aligner and I'm pretty sure I can bolt together a TBX creator in no time as well.
A batch mode would probably be easy to set up, too, i.e. run the script once and have all files in a folder converted.
Of course this wouldn't allow you to edit TBX files or convert them back to whatever other format, just generate them.
To be honest though, I think tab separated UTF-8 txt is probably still the easiest format for most people to handle. It's far from ideal for synonyms and such like, but at least it's truly portable. I for one wouldn't be too happy if I had to try and import a TBX to MultiTerm.
[Edited at 2010-04-05 17:13 GMT]
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UserOne wrote:
Virtaal (without OmegaT) can edit both TBX and TMX and runs under Windows Linux and MAC OS.
Virtaal can edit the existing entries in existing TBX files, but you can't create new TBX files or add new entries or delete entries from TBX files with it. It's like having a word processor (for MS Word or OOo Writer) that allows you to edit existing Word or Writer files, but does not allow you to create new files or to add or delete paragraphs from existing Word or Writer files.
Then try Lokalize. It runs on Linux and Windows. With it you can add/modify/delete concepts, set a subject field for a concept, set definitions, and translations. It is a really basic editor for TBX, but maybe it is useful for you. And you can import existing TBX files.
I really hope that one of the TBX editor projects that have started in the last years could reach a stable version, and not to disappear silently as some of them did.
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If you need something that can create TBX files from some standard format (tab delimited txt, ideally) and still haven't found the right solution, perhaps I can help you.
I wrote a TMX creator for my aligner and I'm pretty sure I can bolt together a TBX creator in no time as well.
A batch mode would probably be easy to set up, too, i.e. run the script once and have all files in a folder converted.
Of course this wouldn't allow you to edit TBX files or convert them back to whatever other format, just generate them.
To be honest though, I think tab separated UTF-8 txt is probably still the easiest format for most people to handle. It's far from ideal for synonyms and such like, but at least it's truly portable. I for one wouldn't be too happy if I had to try and import a TBX to MultiTerm.
[Edited at 2010-04-05 17:13 GMT]
TBX also is truly portable, since it is text as well. And in it you can specify very complex relations amongst the different elements in the glossary.
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FarkasAndras Hungary Local time: 19:37 English to Hungarian + ...
Read vs parse
Apr 11, 2010
unho wrote:
FarkasAndras wrote:
If you need something that can create TBX files from some standard format (tab delimited txt, ideally) and still haven't found the right solution, perhaps I can help you.
I wrote a TMX creator for my aligner and I'm pretty sure I can bolt together a TBX creator in no time as well.
A batch mode would probably be easy to set up, too, i.e. run the script once and have all files in a folder converted.
Of course this wouldn't allow you to edit TBX files or convert them back to whatever other format, just generate them.
To be honest though, I think tab separated UTF-8 txt is probably still the easiest format for most people to handle. It's far from ideal for synonyms and such like, but at least it's truly portable. I for one wouldn't be too happy if I had to try and import a TBX to MultiTerm.
TBX also is truly portable, since it is text as well. And in it you can specify very complex relations amongst the different elements in the glossary.
Yes, TBX is txt so a text editor can read it... now show me how you can import it into multiterm 2007 or omegat without extra software, or just make any sense of it in any way without installing specialized sw. Opening a tagged file in a text editor and reading the content is not my idea of a convenient usage scenario.
A tab delimited txt can be used by anyone in any OS. All they need is a spreadsheet or database program of some sort and they can search it conveniently as is or import it into their CAT of choice. Even a text editor or word processor will allow them to search reasonably well if they have no CAT and no spreadsheet program.
Of course TBX has more advanced features than a txt, otherwise it would be completely pointless... But I'd propose that it's nowhere near widespread enough (yet) to be considered a standard everyone can easily use. In other words, only use it if you know that the software the other party uses is TBX-compatible.
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Alberto Sala Local time: 19:37 English to Italian + ...
I have tried with Olifant but it asks for some filter settings, about which I dont have any idea.
Before wasting time downloading and testing other editors I wonder if somebody has already successfully opened MicrosoftTermCollection.tbx with any of the tbx editors suggested and is working with it.
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Alberto
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Michael Beijer United Kingdom Local time: 18:37 Member (2009) Dutch to English + ...
Xbench
Oct 15, 2010
Xbench can handle TBX, and pretty much anything else you decide to toss its way.
My only problem with it is that it seems to run entirely in RAM, which would preclude me being able to use it in the long run for large collections of data. I only have 3 or 4 GB on Windows XP 32bit.
Michael
[Edited at 2010-10-16 10:54 GMT]
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FarkasAndras Hungary Local time: 19:37 English to Hungarian + ...
Xbench
Oct 15, 2010
Michael J.W. Beijer wrote:
Xbench can handle TBX, and pretty much anything else you decide to toss its way.
My only problem with it is that it seems to run entirely in RAM, which would preclude me being able to use it in the long run for large collections of data. I only have 3 or 4 GB on Windows XP 32bit.
Michael
It does run entirely in RAM but that doesn't necessarily stop you from using it with large amounts of data. It's still the best tool I have for large TMs, so I have an Xbench project set up with about 2,5 million TUs in 10 or so files. They are all tab delimited as that's the most efficient format. They take 5+ minutes to load and take up about 900MB of RAM, but it works reasonably well.
Xbench should work with the MS TBX files, but you will lose the definitions, which is a pretty big drawback if you ask me.
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chrislau China Local time: 01:37 English to Chinese + ...
Another way to edit your terminology file
Jun 1, 2011
This may sounds bad but it actually worked on my case.
You can try export your tbx file into a Tab Delimited .txt file, after that open it with Microsoft Excel, you can edit the terminologies directly on Excel then. (If you don't have a terminology database at first, simply just create a whole new Excel Workbook) When you finished the editing, save it as a Tab Delimited .txt file again, then import it back into your CAT software, everything is good to go now.
I'm have to admit this is not a good way, and Microsoft Excel is not a Free software either, unfortunately OpenOffice doesn't support this.
~C.
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Michael Beijer United Kingdom Local time: 18:37 Member (2009) Dutch to English + ...
Rename as .xml
Nov 21, 2011
Similar to what chrislau said:
Rename the .tbx file to .xml, and then open Excel (2007 or 2010), go to the Data tab, and select 'From other sources' -> 'From XML data import'.
'TBX format files are simply files that have been formatted in an XML type of format that was conveniently renamed to TBX. The TBX format is quite similar to standard XML and can therefore be imported quite easily into MS Excel. This is done by adding the file extension xml to the TBX file and then importing the file into Excel. MS Excel will automatically recognise the format and create an XML table before importing all data.'
Michael
[Edited at 2011-11-22 08:39 GMT]
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Michael Grant Japan Local time: 02:37 Japanese to English
Excel 2007, that is...
Nov 22, 2011
Michael Beijer wrote:
Rename the .tbx file to .xml, and then open Excel, go to the Data tab, and select 'From other sources' -> 'From XML data import'.
You need to be more specific: this only works in Excel 2007 (or 2010?), there is no Data tab in Excel 2000/2003...In Excel 2007, yes, this works beautifully!(I just tried it)
Anyway, thanks for the tip!
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