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Jobs site charges 15% commission on any order IN ADVANCE !
Thread poster: Elene P.
Elene P.
Elene P.  Identity Verified
Georgia
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Apr 12, 2008

Hi everybody.
Have you had an experience working with ------- outsorcing website which charges a huge commission of 15% of any translation order and in advance!!!

I got a request from there, saying that there was a client interested in my profile for the potential work.

The mechanism is as follows: once you receive such "booking", you enter a bid for this proposal, if a client accepts the bid then you are being charged a commission of 15% of total amount in adva
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Hi everybody.
Have you had an experience working with ------- outsorcing website which charges a huge commission of 15% of any translation order and in advance!!!

I got a request from there, saying that there was a client interested in my profile for the potential work.

The mechanism is as follows: once you receive such "booking", you enter a bid for this proposal, if a client accepts the bid then you are being charged a commission of 15% of total amount in advance and given an address of the client. Afterwards, if client changes his/her mind, this ------ outsourcing website promises to refund the commission....

BUT, in job announcement nothing was written about deadline. I work only part-time, if all this mechanism starts and client gives me bad deadline I would not be able to refuse and the commission will be already charged...


What is your advice? Have you had any experience with this ------- outsorcing website (I can not name it) or similar ones?




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Oleg Rudavin
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Hi Elena! Apr 12, 2008

Look, isn't it weird that translators (who are supposed to be paid at a later date) are charged a commission instead of the oursourcer who is supposed to pay?

I didn't have any experience - nor that I want to have any - with a middleman that invented a new way of making money out of the air.

Do their rules mention something like "full refund except for a percentage as a processing fee" in a small font?

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Kevin Fulton
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United States
Local time: 11:45
German to English
Lots of reliable agencies Apr 12, 2008

You don't need to go through a fly-by-night website in order to find a job. There are literally hundreds, if not thousands, of agencies who can be verified and who can be relied upon to act as a genuine intermediary between a translator and a buyer of translations. The agency obtains the requirements from the end client and transmits these, plus any agency requirements (usually a different deadline if the agency performs a quality check, which it should). Normally an agency takes its commission... See more
You don't need to go through a fly-by-night website in order to find a job. There are literally hundreds, if not thousands, of agencies who can be verified and who can be relied upon to act as a genuine intermediary between a translator and a buyer of translations. The agency obtains the requirements from the end client and transmits these, plus any agency requirements (usually a different deadline if the agency performs a quality check, which it should). Normally an agency takes its commission from the amount the end client pays to the agency. Paying money up front makes no sense and is risky.Collapse


 
Elene P.
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you're absolutely right! Apr 12, 2008

15% it's really huge...
You are right, they are "making money out of the air".
How clever, that I did not get involved!!!


 
Anna Villegas
Anna Villegas
Mexico
Local time: 09:45
English to Spanish
My experience Apr 12, 2008

A popular translators site where I was subscribed to, emailed me saying that a client was interested in my service. Wow, I thought, a new client, good, and there I go clicking the link. "Please pay 10 dollars in order to see the client's message", was the response. "Ten dollars", I thought, "not a high fee for a job and new client"; so, there was me paying with my debit card...

I never received an answer from the pretended client! I was cheated.
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A popular translators site where I was subscribed to, emailed me saying that a client was interested in my service. Wow, I thought, a new client, good, and there I go clicking the link. "Please pay 10 dollars in order to see the client's message", was the response. "Ten dollars", I thought, "not a high fee for a job and new client"; so, there was me paying with my debit card...

I never received an answer from the pretended client! I was cheated.
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Elene P.
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:( Apr 12, 2008

Lucky you that for only 10 dollars

I deleted my profile on that dubious ------ outsourcing website


 
Anne Bohy
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France
Local time: 17:45
English to French
I never enter my profile when I am only asked for that Apr 12, 2008

When I am contacted directly by e-mail, it is usually by agencies who have an urgent job. I also receive some e-mails from agencies or even from Web sites, asking me to enter my profile, just in case...
I did that once or twice with agencies which looked reliable, but even then I never got any further news. I never do that on job sites that I have not chosen myself (I mean, not through e-mails).
As unsollicited e-mails is the modern pleague, it is very important to give as little fee
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When I am contacted directly by e-mail, it is usually by agencies who have an urgent job. I also receive some e-mails from agencies or even from Web sites, asking me to enter my profile, just in case...
I did that once or twice with agencies which looked reliable, but even then I never got any further news. I never do that on job sites that I have not chosen myself (I mean, not through e-mails).
As unsollicited e-mails is the modern pleague, it is very important to give as little feedback as possible to any of them (not even displaying images or clicking on links)
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Viktoria Gimbe
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Canada
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For the record Apr 13, 2008

I would not touch such a website with a 39.5-foot pole. Ever.

 
Elene P.
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Thanks to everyone! Apr 13, 2008

Happily I did not get into this trap.

 
Joan Berglund
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United States
Local time: 11:45
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French to English
I may have heard from these guys Apr 15, 2008

The weird unsolicited translation test (received by email) I mentioned in another thread may have come from this place. I think later on after the odd and syntactically baroque questions, there was a section about wanting a 15% cut, but I never really got that far, since the whole communication was too annoying to bother with. Was the name a really generic, obvious choice for a translation agency similar to a dozen other agencies listed on the blue board?

 
Elene P.
Elene P.  Identity Verified
Georgia
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No Apr 15, 2008

It seemed to be a solid webportal. Unfortunately I am forbidden to name this webpage. I did not like this payment in advance and also it was quite big 15%.

 


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