Translating for the web - do you charge per word as usual?
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Marlene Blanshay  Identity Verified
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Dec 13, 2008

I'm now working on a web site, translating. I have to log into the page and use the copy with the HTML tags, in a word doc and then send it to the consultant. I've done web sites but usually just the copy, but this time i'm getting the copy from the web site with 'view HTML'.

question: do you charge per word as normal, or extra for this type of job? Note- it does not actually include HTML editing, just translation of the copy between the tags. Thank god!!!

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samtanaka  Identity Verified
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That is not translation,but localization. Dec 14, 2008

That is not translation,but localization.
It should be charge by per page.


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Soonthon LUPKITARO(Ph.D.)  Identity Verified
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Charge by hour Dec 14, 2008

In many instances, web-based direct translation with or without TM provided by client is a very slow process.

1. Slow due to bad Internet connection
2. Slow due to poor server performance of client
3. Slow due to their specific software [e.g. a special version of CAT thay want us to use]
4. Slow due to their translated file QC testing process etc.
In these situations, I declined the jobs or charge by hour.
Reason: I can work more if I do translation without using the web.

Soonthon L.


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Marlene Blanshay  Identity Verified
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good suggestion Dec 14, 2008

thanks. They're a small company so I might give them a flat rate. Next time though, I think i'll decline this type of job.

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Gina Ferlisi
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Usual price Dec 14, 2008

I have been working on websites for many years and i have always charged by words and the clients and web agencies always offer me jobs with word count and never by hour. To be honest i don't see a big difference with working on or off the web, sometimes it is more slower working on a normal translation using trados or other cat tools than working online and if you have a good internet connection there is no problem.

This is only my point of view
Have a nice Sunday

Gina


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nordiste  Identity Verified
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per word + per hour Dec 14, 2008

You can
charge per word for the translation itself
add an extra per hour charge for all the other related tasks i-e downloading, creating files, QA control, etc.


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Andres & Leticia Enjuto  Identity Verified
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That's what we do Dec 14, 2008

nordiste wrote:

You can
charge per word for the translation itself
add an extra per hour charge for all the other related tasks i-e downloading, creating files, QA control, etc.



That's what we do and it works fine


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xxxMarc P  Identity Verified
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Translating for the web - do you charge per word as usual? Dec 14, 2008

Why copy the HTML content into a Word document? I would just download all the HTML files (e.g. with wget) and translate them directly. In OmegaT, for instance, translating HTML is the same as any other file format.

Marc


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Steven Capsuto  Identity Verified
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By the word / By the hour Dec 14, 2008

I charge my standard, per-word rate for translating text in HTML files, though I make sure that the quoted word count includes ALT tags, pop-out text, etc. As suggested above, I work directly with the HTML files (generally in Trados TagEditor or in SDLX, though other CAT tools can usually handle web files as well).

There are certain other tasks, however, for which I charge by the hour. Web site localization almost always involves modification of .gif or .jpg files that contain graphical text. Many factors affect how long that will take. Once these graphic files are modified, I often have to rework the HTML slightly, especially if the width of menu graphics has changed. For all these tasks I bill by the hour.


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xxxNMR
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It depends of the website Dec 15, 2008

I did lots of websites and tried all available methods. Suggestions:

1) if the individual texts are organized in "articles", and are big enough (more than 50 words); copy them into Word, treat them as usual and then paste them back in the system, one by one. You can keep the Word file with all texts, which will give you the final wordcount you can invoice. And count a supplement for file handling, as a % or in number of hours.

2) if the individual texts are small, work directly on the website and invoice per hour of work, because you will depend on your internet connexion, maybe even have to work at night.

The problem is that you will have to make an estimation before you begin; ask your client if you can test the system for one or two hours. These texts are often easy (they have to be read by all kinds of people, on a screen!) and repeat themselves.

3) most clients who use this kind of systems now are able to create an output in Excel, which you can handle as usual; then the webmaster pasts the translations back into the system (don't ask me how he does). And in each case he won't understand why you have a problem, because for him it is just "typing in the other language" - he could do it by himself - and sometimes does - grr.

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