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Elizabeth Jackson 
Spain
Local time: 21:57
  Member (2008)
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Hi there,
I purchased some books via Amazon.co.uk a few months ago and I've received a letter from AEAT saying that the VAT number I put on my 349 is incorrect.
The number appearing on the invoice is ESN1081152I, but when I look for this in the site http://ec.europa.eu/taxation_customs/vies/vieshome.do it does not come up as valid.
Am I doing something wrong here?
Cheers
Elizabeth
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Kate Chaffer
Italy
Local time: 21:57
Member (2009)
Italian to English
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The number you need is GB727255821. I've checked it on the VIES website.
VAT Validation Response
Yes, valid VAT number
VAT number GB 727255821
Member State GB
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Name AMAZON EU SARL !! AMAZON. CO.UK
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Address PATRIOT COURT
1-9 THE GROVE
SLOUGH
BERKS
SL1 1QP
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Consultation Number
Date when request received 06/07/2011 (dd/mm/yyyy)
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Elizabeth Jackson
Spain
Local time: 21:57
Member (2008)
Spanish to English
TOPIC STARTER |
Thanks for your help. How did you arrive at that number?
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Kate Chaffer
Italy
Local time: 21:57
Member (2009)
Italian to English
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I just googled "Amazon VAT number". The only answers I found were on forums, but checking the number on the VIES website showed it was the right one. Strange it's not on the Amazon website (at least I can't find it!).
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Mary Worby
United Kingdom
Local time: 20:57
Member
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As far as I'm aware, there is no VAT on books in the UK.
Whether that makes a difference to the accounting process, I don't know!
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Gilla Evans
United Kingdom
Local time: 20:57
Member (2009)
Spanish to English
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| | No VAT on books unless... | Jul 6, 2011 |
you buy them as e-books, on which full VAT is charged (for no good reason that I can understand).
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Kate Chaffer
Italy
Local time: 21:57
Member (2009)
Italian to English
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There is no VAT on books delivered to the UK. When I buy books from Amazon UK for delivery to Italy, they add 4% VAT as Italy charges 4% VAT on books. I think that's the same for Spain, where the original poster is based.
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Teresa Borges
Belgium
Local time: 21:57
Member (2007)
German to Portuguese
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| | Does it make sense? | Jul 6, 2011 |
Gilla Evans wrote:
you buy them as e-books, on which full VAT is charged (for no good reason that I can understand). |
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VAT is currently levied on ebooks and audiobooks in the UK. The EC raised this issue, saying that print and digital books should normally be subject to equal VAT treatment, albeit at reduced rates because "many member states continuously want to subsidise such consumption for educational/cultural reasons."
http://www.thebookseller.com/news/vat-books-threat-back.html
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Emma Goldsmith
Spain
Local time: 21:57
Member (2010)
Spanish to English
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I've just checked an Amazon.co.uk invoice and 4% has been applied on a purchase for books. Maybe this isn't applied if you're based in the UK.
The ES VAT number you came up with, Elizabeth, is the Amazon EU lawyers' number for Spain. No wonder it wasn't accepted!
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Elizabeth Jackson
Spain
Local time: 21:57
Member (2008)
Spanish to English
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Thanks for your help Emma, Kate, Gilla & Mary. I really appreciate it.
I'm based in Spain so the 4% is applied.
Cheers
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Christine Andersen
Denmark
Local time: 21:57
Member (2003)
Danish to English
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| | Thanks for the information! | Jul 6, 2011 |
I have never thought about it, because I usually get Amazon to send books to my relatives in the UK. I collect them next time I visit...
The VAT rate for Denmark and Sweden is 25% - plus extra postage... OUCH!
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Kate Chaffer
Italy
Local time: 21:57
Member (2009)
Italian to English
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Madeleine MacRae Klintebo
United Kingdom
Local time: 20:57
Swedish to English
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Christine Andersen wrote:
The VAT rate for Denmark and Sweden is 25% - plus extra postage... OUCH! |
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Aren't books in Sweden subject to a lower level of VAT? 6% I think.
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Christine Andersen
Denmark
Local time: 21:57
Member (2003)
Danish to English
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| | VAT in Sweden | Jul 6, 2011 |
You are probably right, Madeleine.
Though VAT in Denmark is 25% on just about everything - and my Swedish relatives commiserate!
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Emma Goldsmith
Spain
Local time: 21:57
Member (2010)
Spanish to English
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Hi Elizabeth,
I'm in a similar situation right now. I registered my VAT no. on the Amazon.es page and so my latest order has been issued without VAT.
However, I've spoken to Amazon.es on the phone and they assure me that I have to use their Spanish VAT no. ESN1081152I . And, as you point out, it's not accepted on VIES.
I asked if I could use the Luxembourg no. because the invoice is issued by Amazon EU S.a.r.L, which is based in Luxembourg, but they say I can't.
Which number did you end up using and did you get any feedback from Hacienda about your 349 form?
Thanks,
Emma
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