I successfully managed my first year as an Autonomo in Spain.
MODELOS
Instead of driving to the Hacienda, I was wondering if somebody can quickly check if I forgot any important modelos that are requested by the Hacienda for my 4th quarter / end of financial year.
- 130 for IRPF -> 4T
- 131 (?) for IRPF 2011 overview
(I am referring to RENDIMIENTOS DE ACTIVIDADES ECONÓMICAS EN ESTIMACIÓN DIRECTA, but not sure if this equals the 131)
- 303 for IVA -> 4T
- 349 for Intra-EU client work
- 390 for IVA 2011 overview
Pretty sure I am missing something. e.g., do I have to do 311?
INVOICE NUMBERS
Hacienda stated that a consistent approach is needed. Therefore, 2011 worked for me like
2011001, 2011002, 2011003 etc
Do I have to continue with this numbers, or can I restart with
2012001, 2012002 etc
?
Thank you and best wishes,
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James Calder Spain Local time: 22:06 Member (2006) Spanish to English + ...
130, 303, 390
Jan 12
Hi fr54ert
Congratulations on completing your first year of freelancing in Spain.
All you need to complete is the 130, 303 and 390. I used to do a 349 but was reliably informed by Hacienda that I didn't need to do it. As for a 131 I've never filled one of those out and I've been freelancing in Spain for ten years. Also, find yourself a decent "asesor". They'll give you good tips on the annual declaración de la renta, which you have to do every May-June.
As for invoice numbers, 2012001, 2012002 etc is absolutely fine.
HTH
James
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Emma Goldsmith Spain Local time: 22:06 Member (2010) Spanish to English
130 and 349
Jan 12
Re: 130. If more than 70% of your invoices is already subject to a 15% IRPF withholding (i.e. all your Spanish clients), then you don't need to file the quarterly 130 form. (This is calculated from your previous year's figures)
Re: 349. This is required annually for your EU clients if your total annual earnings (before IVA) come to less than €35,000 AND your total EU earnings come to less than €15,000. If you don't fulfill these two conditions, then you should file this form every 3 months.
I don't know about the 131 form.
Don't forget that the 347 form will be due in March. That's an annual declaration for operations with clients with whom you've totalled more than €3,005.06 in the year (including IVA). It doesn't include EU clients.
Good luck.
Note @ James.
- I think being "reliably informed by Hacienda" is a contradiction in terms
- I agree that an "asesor" is the way to go for the OP.
- You can file the anual IRPF online too.
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Juan González Spain Local time: 22:06 Member (2008) English to Spanish + ...
347
Jan 13
Emma Goldsmith wrote:
Re: 130. If more than 70% of your invoices is already subject to a 15% IRPF withholding (i.e. all your Spanish clients), then you don't need to file the quarterly 130 form. (This is calculated from your previous year's figures)
I don't know about the 131 form.
If you chose the "estimación directa" option on your 036/037 form you must fill the 130 form in, whereas if you chose "estimación objetiva" you must deliver the 131 form. The usual option for translators is the former.
Don't forget that the 347 form will be due in March. That's an annual declaration for operations with clients with whom you've totalled more than €3,005.06 in the year (including IVA). It doesn't include EU clients.
Not only with your clients, but you must also reflect your operations with your suppliers that exceed in overall that amount.
With the Spanish "Hacienda" it is easy to learn many new things each and every day... then it is up to every person to check whether they are correct or incorrect.
[Edited at 2012-01-13 10:24 GMT]
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First of all: Thank you so much James, Emma and Juan. Glad to find that support here at Proz.
To summarize:
JAN 2012
- 130: needed (I agree with Emma, got same information from Hacienda)
- 131: not needed if 036 choice is estimación directa. Please see my follow-up question below.
- 303: needed
- 349: needed (I agree with Emma, got same information from Hacienda)
- 390: needed
MAR 2012
- 347: needed. Please see my follow-up question below.
MAY/JUNE 2012
- Annual declaración de la renta
Questions
131: If I do not need the 131 but only the 130, how for example will I claim "Conjunto de provisiones deducibles y gastos de dificil justificación"? Or is this a big misunderstanding of mine and those things are done with the annual declaración de la renta? (I assume yes)
347: I agree with Emma. Juan:
Not only with your clients, but you must also reflect your operations with your customers that exceed in overall that amount.
I am afraid I do not get your point. Would you mind explaining?
Annual declaracion renta: So this is to get IRPF back, if eligible? Can somebody point me to a pdf preview to get an idea?
Emma: what is OP?
Thank you so much!
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Emma Goldsmith Spain Local time: 22:06 Member (2010) Spanish to English
some more answers
Jan 13
fr54ert wrote:
If I do not need the 131 but only the 130, how for example will I claim "Conjunto de provisiones deducibles y gastos de dificil justificación"? Or is this a big misunderstanding of mine and those things are done with the annual declaración de la renta? (I assume yes)
Yes, all this nitty gritty will be covered in the annual IRPF declaration.
Juan wrote:
Not only with your clients, but you must also reflect your operations with your customers that exceed in overall that amount.
I don't understand this either. I think we're talking about the same thing, actually.
fr54ert wrote:
Annual declaracion renta: So this is to get IRPF back, if eligible? Can somebody point me to a pdf preview to get an idea?
Yes, it's to get a negative balance back or to pay if it works out positive. Not sure about a PDF preview. It's a very long file that you fill in using PADRE (Hacienda's wizard that you download onto your machine). Hacienda will send you (on request) the details that it thinks should be included (bank interest, seg social payments, IRPF withholdings). As autónomos, it won't give you a draft version for you to sign, which most "normal" people can get
Emma: what is OP?
Original Poster (you in this case!)
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Juan González Spain Local time: 22:06 Member (2008) English to Spanish + ...
My mistake, Emma
Jan 13
Emma wrote:
Juan wrote:
Not only with your clients, but you must also reflect your operations with your customers that exceed in overall that amount.
I don't understand this either. I think we're talking about the same thing, actually.
Sorry, I meant suppliers... I have already made an amendment to my original post, thanks for spotting the mistake!
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Emma Goldsmith Spain Local time: 22:06 Member (2010) Spanish to English
suppliers in 347 too
Jan 13
Juan González wrote:
Sorry, I meant suppliers...
Aha! now I understand. I don't outsource work so I didn't know that suppliers should also be included. Thanks for the heads up, Juan.
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Thank you so much for clarifying Emma y Juan, it helped me a lot.
Emma:
Hacienda will send you (on request) the details that it thinks should be included (bank interest, seg social payments, IRPF withholdings). As autónomos, it won't give you a draft version for you to sign, which most "normal" people can get
How can this be requested? Via the software?
What is meant by "it wont give you a draft"? A draft of what? Why should I sign a draft?
Don't forget that the 347 form will be due in March (...). It doesn't include EU clients.
Does this include Non-EU clients, like from Australia or the US?
And last but not least:
What is the advantage of an asesor?
The modelos for autonomos seem to be quite straight-forward, its basically working like everywhere else (worked self-employed in GER, UK, AUS and US), my business does not have any complexity, and is only making 20K EUR / year.
Are there significant gaps/tricks/hidden gold treasures that I can miss by not using an asesor? I mean Hacienda is even explaining things like the conjunto de provisiones deducibles y gastos de dificil justificación and how I should apply this to my figures.
And if you insist on an asesor: can you recommend one in Madrid? (yes I know, this is off-topic. Happy to start another treat)
Thank you,
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