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Problems with an agency Thread poster: Andrea Halbritter
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Lori Cirefice wrote: Do you have a spare room to rent by any chance  ? Just this morning I was talking to a friend about the fiscal benefits of moving to Vanuatu.
Ha ha
You may want to peruse the 2016 Index of Economic Freedom.
1. Hong Kong
2. Singapore
3. New Zealand
4. Switzerland
5. Australia
6. Canada
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17. Germany
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75. France
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89. Vanuatu
Canada doesn't look bad to me, and they accept freelance translator immigrants under the 'cultural/artist' category.
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| Electronically provided services | Feb 2, 2016 |
Andrea Halbritter wrote:
Accountant after having had a look on the French link of Lori:
"Non, les pestations par voie électronique font référence à une liste définie par décret, et la traduction n'est pas dans la liste du décret"
Electronically provided services are those where all customers essentially download a standard product such as an e-book, video on demand, a music album … NOT services individually prepared for each client.
That accountant clearly doesn't have a clue. I wonder where he bought his diploma, or who he knows on the inside to have gotten one? Worse than useless.
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Indeed what a frustrating situation for you Andrea... maybe we should just found our own private island nation with Thomas and forget about France? I'm sure we wouldn't have any trouble getting others to join us!
(just trying to give you some comic relief in this ridiculous situation!!)
[Edited at 2016-02-02 16:19 GMT]
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Lori Cirefice wrote:
Indeed what a frustrating situation for you Andrea... maybe we should just found our own private island nation with Thomas and forget about France? I'm sure we wouldn't have any trouble getting others to join us!
(just trying to give you some comic relief in this ridiculous situation!!)
[Edited at 2016-02-02 16:19 GMT]
It's the sort of never-ending administrative saga I just got so fed up with in France. In fact, I ended up completely demoralised in France, so what do culinary, history, nature, climate and lifestyle help when the administration keep tearing down your work and taking whatever money is left? Fortunately, my children too have settled very well in Germany and get special German classes for foreigners to learn the language, even out here in a former GDR province. They wouldn't have had a chance in France with the ever-rising unemployment, and they learned very little at the French collège (run more like a military organisation than a school) anyway. Germany is a major administrative relief after France, and housing is cheap in the eastern states. I still get a nervous attack every time I receive an administratively-looking letter, though. I guess it'll take some years to overcome that trauma.
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| IT'S OKAY!!!!! | Feb 2, 2016 |
Same for me. And the school system is really horror here (find it like in the military as well...). I just have the ocean infront of the door though... (Or well in a 10 minutes' walk.) It's not my only problem with the French administration neither, I fight with some other (private ones) since months...
Just got the reply of the chief accountant though saying for him it's okay now. NO VAT for translation...
Thanks to everyone and to have a good laugh I will also put the... See more Same for me. And the school system is really horror here (find it like in the military as well...). I just have the ocean infront of the door though... (Or well in a 10 minutes' walk.) It's not my only problem with the French administration neither, I fight with some other (private ones) since months...
Just got the reply of the chief accountant though saying for him it's okay now. NO VAT for translation...
Thanks to everyone and to have a good laugh I will also put the answers of the tax authorities and the other two accountants when I got them... ▲ Collapse
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I wonder if the accountant even apologized...
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Lori Cirefice wrote:
I wonder if the accountant even apologized...
Since it's France, you have to be happy if he doesn't send an additional invoice for
"Specialist services: specific and additional research explicitly required by the client : 2 hours at €100 : €200."
"Urgency fee for the above: 50 % : €100."
"Frais de dossier: €50."
and berate you that next time he is to do something, you have to be more specific about which type of services you are providing (i.e. it's all your fault he's incompetent).
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Sheila Wilson 
Spain
Local time: 04:26
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Andrea Halbritter wrote:
Just got the reply of the chief accountant though saying for him it's okay now. NO VAT for translation...
I always did all my own bookkeeping and accounts in France as I could just about get by in the language from the start. When I moved to Spain I spoke about four words of Spanish - Ole!, mañana, sombrero and siesta - so I had to get myself an accountant. Nearly four years later, I'm in the process of sacking him as he's really dumped me in the **** and I'm faced with paying massive amounts of back taxes to stay legal . I'm not yet quite ready to go it alone but I've found someone who will just give me advice and point me to the relevant information (in English or Spanish) while I go about filling in all the forms myself. That way, I'll be able to be independent soon.
It may be an unwanted overhead in terms of time, but it's better in the end to be in control of what you're responsible for.
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| Quite hilarious! | Feb 2, 2016 |
Although it must have been stressful for you, Andrea!
I believe however, after having read this thread, that French accountants might still be beaten by Italian accountants.
I have been occasionally under the impression, reading the forum, that each one of them has set up his/her own (sometimes very fanciful) rules/interpretations of the law and therefore have come to the conclusion that it must be diff... See more Although it must have been stressful for you, Andrea!
I believe however, after having read this thread, that French accountants might still be beaten by Italian accountants.
I have been occasionally under the impression, reading the forum, that each one of them has set up his/her own (sometimes very fanciful) rules/interpretations of the law and therefore have come to the conclusion that it must be difficult to understand for an accountant what's our job about. And furthermore, having foreign customers is only an unnecessary complication for them!
So, yes, why don't we get rid altogether of our foreign customers, to the utmost satisfaction at least of our accountants!
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Heinrich Pesch
Finland
Local time: 06:26
Member (2003)
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| Don't charge VAT if you are not sure | Feb 2, 2016 |
I for my part never charge VAT for any other than Finnish business partners. Each month I fill in the online form for EU-services, and sum the invoices for non-EU-partners (zero-tax) quarterly.
In any case why charge VAT from Australia? Who cares if you do? You cannot keep the money for yourself, so why bother? Do the tax authority really look into your accounts? If so they have too many people working for the state.
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The VAT was not charged by me. I did the invoice without. But as I explained earlier on I am part of a cooperative and our accountant has a look on all the invoices. He added the 20 %...
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| Just found this thread | Feb 8, 2016 |
You have my sympathies Andrea. It sounds an utter nightmare. How did your client react?
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| Reaction of the customer | Feb 19, 2016 |
They were of course not really amused but as I wrote earlier in this thread I did not like to continue that business relation for other reasons anyway.
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