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Nina Khmielnitzky  Identity Verified
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Apr 20, 2005

http://www.proz.com/job/76228

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Rainer Pawellek  Identity Verified
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Caution - you might have to pay a rush rate! Apr 20, 2005

After all, it's an urgent job...

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Francesca moletta
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do the dishes! Apr 20, 2005

No way!

I insist to do the dishes afterwards!!!!


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PCovs
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Hilarious! Apr 20, 2005

This has got to be a joke.

It's not a job offer - it's a robbery.

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xxxsarahl
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you read wrong! Apr 20, 2005

they're actually offering .03!
all right!


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Will Matter  Identity Verified
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Insulting Apr 20, 2005

The "rates" that they offer, for every "job" they posted are nothing but insulting. Unbelievable.

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Konstantin Kisin  Identity Verified
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I have often considered... Apr 20, 2005

putting something like this at the top of my profile:

IF YOU ARE A RUSSIAN OR INDIAN AGENCY PLEASE CLICK THE "Õ" IN THE TOP RIGHT HAND CORNER OF YOUR BROWSER NOW.

I have had a Russian agency offer me $0.03 per word and when I responded saying that I don't normally charge less than $0.11 for some reason they never got back to me... Russian and Indian agencies are infamous for unbelievably low prices


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LegalTransform  Identity Verified
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Not limited to India - .03 in the USA too Apr 20, 2005

http://www.proz.com/job/76255

But don't dispair because there is "room for advancement over time". By 2020 you will be making what you should have made in 1980!





[Edited at 2005-04-20 21:19]


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xxxsarahl
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A question Apr 20, 2005

I have been dying to ask all these posters:
how much are THEY paid by the hour?
I'm sure they're paying their cleaning lady more than they're offering in these postings.


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cendrine marrouat
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I guess we should have a PhD! Apr 20, 2005

I wouldn't be surprised if they asked for a PhD and TRADOS. And we should also do night work!
My goodness, what are we worth these days?


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Riccardo Schiaffino  Identity Verified
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And a stellar Blue Board rating too... Apr 20, 2005

Jeff Whittaker wrote:

http://www.proz.com/job/76255

But don't dispair because there is "room for advancement over time".



Go and look at the corresponding Blue Board rating: 12 translators all attesting how nice it is to work for him: as long as people accept (and are happy with) working at such low rates, there is no incentive for outsorcers to increase what they offer.

[Edited at 2005-04-20 22:18]


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Ralf Lemster  Identity Verified
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No client discussions, please... Apr 20, 2005

Hi all,
I would just like to remind everbody of the forum rules, which you accept by posting here, in particular:


12. No client discussions

Comments regarding at a specific outsourcer, whether positive or negative, are not permitted. (To indicate your likelihood of working again with a given outsourcer, use the ProZ.com Blue Board.)


...and answering Cendrine's question:

My goodness, what are we worth these days?

That is your decision, as nobody can force you to work at any price.

I'd just like to add some anecdotal evidence here, if I may.
I recently posted a job for a complex financial text including references to quantum physics. Pretty much top-of-the-range, I'd say - yet most of the quotes (including the winning one) remained at around EUR 0.10. Go figure...

Best, Ralf


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xxxPaul Roige
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How much more incentive do we need? Apr 20, 2005

Riccardo Schiaffino wrote:

Go and look at the corresponding Blue Board rating: 12 translators all attesting how nice it is to work for him: as long as people accept (and are happy with) working at such low rates, there is no incentive for outsorcers to increase what they offer.

[Edited at 2005-04-20 22:18]


Who cares about dough then? Heaven is waiting for us Ambassadors of Good Will Translators anyway. And if you believe in reincarnation, as many fellows do in that cute subcontinent, we're already paid heaps of good karma, so we won't turn up as translators again (or monkeys) in the next life. Window-cleaners, that would cool man, they get US$35/hour here in Godzone, at least. There.
Om forever
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cendrine marrouat
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Why let them post such a joke then? Apr 20, 2005

I am sorry, you are probably right.
Then, explain to me why such offers are accepted then? Why can't we comment on what we think is robbery? Isn't there a rule for that?

As far as my question is concerned, it was a joke, I had added a "wink". I really know what I am worth, that's why I have not accepted low rates since after I got a few jobs going, which means at least 2 years. And I intend on continuing this way. I prefer working at Mc Donald's rather than being subcontracted by the Indian continent...


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Ralf Lemster  Identity Verified
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Careful with generalising statements Apr 20, 2005

Hi again,
Then, explain to me why such offers are accepted then?

You would need to ask those who are prepared to work for that amount.

Why can't we comment on what we think is robbery? Isn't there a rule for that?

You can comment, provided that there is no discussions about specific outsourcers - and this topic is borderline in this respect.

As far as my question is concerned, it was a joke, I had added a "wink".

Sadly, many are serious about working for rock-bottom rates - completely ignoring the fact that beyond covering ongoing expenditure, they also need to set aside funds to replace operating equipment and software, and save some money for retirement provisions.

I prefer working at Mc Donald's rather than being subcontracted by the Indian continent...

I sincerely hope you're aware of the dangerous generalisation contained in your statement.

Best, Ralf


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