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Invoice before or after payment?
Thread poster: Noelia Fernández Vega
lindaellen (X)
lindaellen (X)

True, but the question concerns the USA Sep 13, 2005

GoodWords wrote:

sylvie malich wrote:

With all due respect, I believe anyone who has identified themself as a native speaker of English would likely know the difference between invoice and receipt.


It can be more complicated than it seems... I am required to issue a recibo de honorarios that states "Recibido de [client] /Cantidad de [amount]; in other words, "Received from [client], the amount of [amount]". This suggests that it is a receipt. However it functions as an invoice, i.e. clients will not begin to process the payment until they receive my signed recibo. When I was new, I questioned this, but clients and accountants all told me "that's the way it is."

[Edited at 2005-09-13 15:02]


Of course the process differs in different countries, but the question was about the USA and what is an invoice or a receipt and how it functions in this particular case.
 
Margaret Schroeder
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Different issues Sep 13, 2005

Linda wrote:
Of course the process differs in different countries, but the question was about the USA and what is an invoice or a receipt and how it functions in this particular case.


Yes, the US client's request for an invoice so that s/he could be paid was straightforward.

To someone who only deals with English speakers in English-speaking countries, it may seem odd---or even a case of ignorance---that the distinction between an invoice and a receipt may not be clear. It is this that is the issue that can be illuminated by different experiences from other countries.

[Edited at 2005-09-13 17:47]
 
achisholm
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Pro-forma fattura (invoice) Sep 14, 2005

I work and pay taxes in Italy, and due to the long delays in getting paid, my "commercialista" or tax-accountant advised me to issue clients with a pro-forma fattura/invoice to request payment from the client. This has no legal or financial implications, it is simply a note to the client that they have to pay you, and then when the payment is made, issue the client with the final fattura, which is also used for tax and VAT purposes.

Otherwisde, you are "lending" the government tax a... See more
I work and pay taxes in Italy, and due to the long delays in getting paid, my "commercialista" or tax-accountant advised me to issue clients with a pro-forma fattura/invoice to request payment from the client. This has no legal or financial implications, it is simply a note to the client that they have to pay you, and then when the payment is made, issue the client with the final fattura, which is also used for tax and VAT purposes.

Otherwisde, you are "lending" the government tax and VAT payments, sometimes months in advance.

Hope this is of some help.

Sandy ▲ Collapse
 
sylvie malich (X)
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Brandis, Andy, Linda, Goodwords: Sep 14, 2005

andycw wrote:

Brandis wrote:

sylvie malich wrote:

With all due respect, I believe anyone who has identified themself as a native speaker of English would likely know the difference between invoice and receipt.

[Edited at 2005-09-13 12:04]
invoice or bill or something else?
You will certainly tell us.Brandis


Brandis,

I take it that Sylvie is responding to Linda's suggestion that the client may have confused the terms "invoice" and "receipt".

What she's saying is that an AMERICAN customer (i.e. a native English speaker) is unlikely to confuse one thing and the other.

Andy



Actually, I was trying to draw attention to the fact that the asker is claiming to be a native English speaker on her profile. That she is corresponding with an American client who is requesting an invoice was secondary.


Excuse my rant. I'll be okay in a few minutes.



[Edited at 2005-09-14 09:00]
 
Noelia Fernández Vega
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Thanks Sandy Sep 14, 2005

Alexander Chisholm wrote:

I work and pay taxes in Italy, and due to the long delays in getting paid, my "commercialista" or tax-accountant advised me to issue clients with a pro-forma fattura/invoice to request payment from the client. This has no legal or financial implications, it is simply a note to the client that they have to pay you, and then when the payment is made, issue the client with the final fattura, which is also used for tax and VAT purposes.

Otherwisde, you are "lending" the government tax and VAT payments, sometimes months in advance.

Hope this is of some help.

Sandy




Thanks Sandy, you have been so helpful. Actually my problem is the taxes and the VAT. Just one thing: the pro-forma fattura must be numbered?
 
Noelia Fernández Vega
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Thanks Sandy Sep 14, 2005

Alexander Chisholm wrote:

I work and pay taxes in Italy, and due to the long delays in getting paid, my "commercialista" or tax-accountant advised me to issue clients with a pro-forma fattura/invoice to request payment from the client. This has no legal or financial implications, it is simply a note to the client that they have to pay you, and then when the payment is made, issue the client with the final fattura, which is also used for tax and VAT purposes.

Otherwisde, you are "lending" the government tax and VAT payments, sometimes months in advance.

Hope this is of some help.

Sandy




Thanks Sandy, you have been so helpful. Actually my problem is the taxes and the VAT. Just one thing: the pro-forma fattura must be numbered and with VAT included?
 
Gwens
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Who has an invoice template? Sep 14, 2005

Maria Luisa Duarte wrote:

Hope this will help you!
Regards
MLD


invoice
noun {C}

a list of items provided or work done together with their cost, for payment at a later time.


http://www.thefreedictionary.com/invoice[/quote]



Hi, does anyone here have an invoice template? Or do you know where I can obtain a nice one?

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