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I've been offered an all-time low rate
Thread poster: Nina Khmielnitzky

Nina Khmielnitzky  Identity Verified
Local time: 07:20
Member (2004)
English to French
Mar 18, 2006

I juste received this email:

I have 10,000 word English to French document. Can you USD
0.03 per word. Needed back by 22nd March. If interested
please reply asap

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This is what I answered:

The rate you suggest in way too low. An appropriate rate for a quality
translation from a professional translator would start at US$.xx per word.
At 0.03, you would only get poor quality from someone who works extremely
fast without research and proofreading to get an income comparable to one of
a professional.

Sorry, I cannot accommodate you.
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Ok, maybe the part "who works extremely fast without research and proofreading" is not entirely true, but hey, that's the way I see it. So it's a big no no!


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Angie Garbarino  Identity Verified
Local time: 13:20
Member (2003)
French to Italian
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yes and me too Mar 18, 2006

Nina Khmielnitzky wrote:

I juste received this email:

I have 10,000 word English to French document. Can you USD
0.03 per word. Needed back by 22nd March. If interested
please reply asap


Hi Nina

Look what I received righ now I am sure it is the same agency


HI

I have 850 words to be translate into italian. Can pay USD
0.03 per word. Needed back by monday morning. Please
confirm if you can take this project

I answered almost the same


bye bye


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Marion Schimmelpfennig  Identity Verified
Local time: 13:20
Member (2003)
English to German
Reply in same manner ;-) Mar 18, 2006

For example:

I not offer rates low. Can you raise to USD 0.10. Need payment advance.

[Edited at 2006-03-18 12:14]


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Teresalba
Italy
Local time: 13:20
English to Italian
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The same Mar 18, 2006

I have 850 words to be translate into italian. Can pay USD
0.03 per word. Needed back by monday morning. Please
confirm if you can take this project

I answered almost the same


bye bye [/quote]

I received the same proposal, and I did not answer at all
Ciao !!
Teresa


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Lucinda  Identity Verified
Local time: 09:20
Member (2002)
Dutch to English
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Rock-Bottom Rates Mar 18, 2006

Dear All,

When you think that this is the lowest, then another one comes up.

A day or so ago, I received one for USD .025/source word, with USD .01 for repetitions.

I sent them my rate sheet and informed them that I would require so much in advance due to the fact that they were a new client.

Thank goodness for excellent and reliable clients! They are daily in my prayers.

Have a great weekend and God bless!

Lucinda


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Textklick  Identity Verified
Local time: 12:20
German to English
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A good point Mar 18, 2006

Nina Khmielnitzky wrote:
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This is what I answered:



Thanks.

I' m glad you raised that point. I was always in the habit of immediately binning such messages sent to a group asking for ridiculous rates. However, on reflection, it is in the interests of all of us to continuously make it clear to such people what rates they should expect to pay.

I shall be guided by your example.

[Edited at 2006-03-18 15:24]


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María Teresa Taylor Oliver  Identity Verified
Panama
Local time: 07:20
English to Spanish
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Oh well, it happens... Mar 18, 2006

Last week I received an unsolicited e-mail from an agency, wanting me to send them my CV and rates, so I did.

This is what I got in response:

"To be honest we work with freelancers for US$0.02-US$0.03 for translations from English into Spanish. I don't know how cost effective that would be for you but thanks for your time. "

Well, I appreciate their honesty...


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Mireille K  Identity Verified
United States
Local time: 07:20
French to English
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I received the e-mail too :)) Mar 18, 2006

I should have answered back, I will in the future, maybe they do get people to do it for that low, that is why they offer such a ridiculous price!
I bet there is someone out there already working on this job, God help the end user!


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Gianfranco Zecchino  Identity Verified
Local time: 13:20
German to Italian
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Same bad habit, same need for "education"... Mar 18, 2006

I got the same offer: 0.03 USD for 850 words into Italian.
I think this is another good chance to train our own "class consciousness". Many agencies scan translators' databases hoping to find someone willing to work for such rates. Sadly enough, there are such people out there. Nevertheless, we can't allow ourselves to accept this tendency and help destroy our professional future. If such a tendency won, it would be more and more difficult to make a living out of translation. Try asking your doctor or plumber for such a rate...They would laugh at you (and throw you out of the door).
I think every one of us should reply to such offers and state in a polite manner our reasons. Maybe one day they would learn...

Regards


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Harry Bornemann  Identity Verified
Mexico
English to German
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Even lower Mar 18, 2006

I just received an enquiry about a 10,000 words tourism project. I confirmed my availability and rate, looked up the Blue Board and - Bingo! - a 100% non-payer who is banned from ProZ!

So I simply added the phrase:

But given your ProZ.com Blueboard entries,
I would have to insist on payment in advance.

(Famous last words)


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Mónica Algazi  Identity Verified
Uruguay
Local time: 09:20
Member (2005)
English to Spanish
It takes all kinds to make the world... Mar 19, 2006

Nina wrote:

I just received this email:

I have 10,000 word English to French document. Can you USD 0.03 per word. Needed back by 22nd March. If interested please reply asap
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This message was sent to a group. Recipients: 97.

It takes all kinds to make the world, you know. However, i guess it is our responsibility as professional translators to politely help them understand, appreciate and accept our standards in all respects.



[Edited at 2006-03-19 13:45]

[Edited at 2006-03-19 13:49]


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Christine Andersen  Identity Verified
Denmark
Local time: 13:20
Member (2003)
Danish to English
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I feel sorry for the so-called translators Mar 19, 2006

They can't be professionals who actually know what they are doing!

I don't mind translating for free in some cases, for a good cause or for someone who really has no money. In that case I tell them to do someone else a favour sometime when they get the chance. People have helped me like that in the past...

I will answer so-called agencies offering ridiculous rates too from now on.

Maybe it would be worth making a standard explanation - I don't have time to write a long mail to each of them...

Have a nice week folks!


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telefpro
Local time: 17:50
Portuguese to English
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I got this ridiculous rate / page Mar 19, 2006

Here is the extract of the mail:

Ayant fréquemment besoin de faire traduire des documents du français vers
l'anglais, nous recherchons des partenaires fiables et polyvalents avec qui
travailler sur le long terme. Si vous êtes en recherche de traductions à
réaliser, nous pouvons vous proposer de nombreux travaux de traduction. Afin de
mieux vous connaître, nous vous ferons parvenir une fiche d'informations
(document questionnaire.doc) à remplir. Merci de nous transmettre également
votre CV.

En tant qu'entreprise en développement, nos moyens financiers sont assez
restreints. Nous proposons un tarif de traduction de 1 centime d'euros la page.
Nous espérons que cela vous conviendra. En contrepartie, nous avons des volumes
de traduction assez important


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Maria Karra  Identity Verified
United States
Local time: 07:20
Member (2000)
Greek to English
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1 centime? Mar 19, 2006

telefpro wrote:
Nous proposons un tarif de traduction de 1 centime d'euros la page.
Nous espérons que cela vous conviendra.


This is the lowest rate I've ever heard of in my life. I've seen 0.03 and even 0.02 (euro or USD), but never 0.01. Next thing you know, they'll be asking us to pay them to give us work.
Maria

[Edited at 2006-03-19 14:30]


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xxxIreneN
United States
Local time: 06:20
English to Russian
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12 against... How many? Mar 19, 2006

Nina, trust me, you havent's seen the worst - $0.01 AND LESS is not an alien here. Sure there are more than 12 people outraged with those rates but with a 6-digit number of Proz members/participants this job must have already been done and the outsourcers are laughing all the way to the bank. They will keep doing so. I can't cling to the illusion that with the borders open wide still only legitimate visa-holders will go through. To put it mildly, the crowd will be mixed. We are outnumbered by hundreds and thousands of seekers who "don't know but will do anyway, only cheaper". What is the problem about translating these days - Google, electronic dictionaries, MT - one must be crazy not to jump after the oppotrunity (my dismal irony).

This is what I was wondering about for a long time - when the statistics is given to us about the numbers of jobs obtained through Proz, is it tied to rates? I doubt it but... What share goes to a range of 2-3 cents/word... 5 or 85%? then 4-6, 7-10, then 10-14 etc. Would be very educational to know.


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