How to quote price for a page in Italy
Thread poster: Jay Kim

Jay Kim  Identity Verified
South Korea
Local time: 15:37
English to Korean
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Feb 4, 2008

Hi all,

Being still a newbie on ProZ, I have to ask for your help again with price quote for a page. A translation agency in Ivrea, Italy inquired me if I can help them with ENG>KOR translation of IT project. For European companies, my base rate is 0.1 Euro per word and 0.12 or higher for specialized subjects, i.e., medical, pharmaceutical, legal, technical, etc. Well, I know translation rate/price is set on different standards depending on countries. Per 1000 words in UK, Per line in Germany, Switzerland and some Eastern European countries. Most European companies I worked with asked me quote per word and that is all I know. I do not know how to quote for a page. They said "usually we consider that 1 page = 1.500 characters, spaces included". If they can accept quote per word, I like to propose 0.1 Euro per word if their material is not highly technical as this is first collaboration. But I need to know average(or moderate, I'd rather say) price for a page in Italy before moving ahead. Thanks in advance for your help!

Jay


[Edited at 2008-02-04 15:11]


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Madalina Martac  Identity Verified
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How to quote for a page in italy Feb 4, 2008

Hi Jay,

All I can tell you is that in Italy a page of 1500 characters+spaces has about 220 words. Unfortunately I know practically nothing about prices for translations from or to korean.

I hope that helps.

Madalina Martac


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Marie-Hélène Hayles  Identity Verified
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It depends on language and subject matter Feb 4, 2008

However, as a guideline €0.10 per word of English very roughly equates to €22.00 per cartella (page) of 1500 characters including spaces (this is the standard way of counting in Italy, some agencies use words but in my experience most use cartelle).

In other words, one cartella is about 220 words of English (at least when I write it!). In practice of course it varies with the text.


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smarinella  Identity Verified
Italy
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prices in Italy Feb 4, 2008

Hallo,

I have absolutey no idea how much a Korean, Japanese or Mongolian translator living in Italy can ask for a page (cartella)....

I only know a couple of (really competent, I have to say) Scandinavian translators who charge for IT>DA/NO until 30,- / 35,- €. Even more, for highly difficult texts... Although Italy unfortunately belongs to the countries with VERY low rates...

Of course, every price is negotiable...


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Alessandro Bartolini  Identity Verified
Germany
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English to Italian
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English-Korean rates Feb 4, 2008

Hi Jay,

I have attached a link to a renowned "tariffometer" for rates in Italy. Unfortunately, the site is in Italian. But if you take a look at the table under "Coreano" (Korean), you'll see that the second column contains the factor 2.6. What does this mean? It means that the rate to be charged is 2.6 times the average Italian rate. Please keep in mind that this table has not been compiled according to scientific methods, but it can be used as an indication. Now, let's say the average rate in Italy is 15-18 euros per page. Multiplied by 2.6, that makes 39-44 euros. If I were you, I would ask at least 40 euros per page, even more so because they're asking you to translate from English to Korean, a combination that is rare as chicken teeth in Italy.

http://www.turner.it/T-%20Altre_lingue.htm


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Jay Kim  Identity Verified
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Cartella and English-Korean rate Feb 5, 2008

Many thanks for kind feedback by Itaian colleagues. I have to confess that I was very confused when my client asked me "price quote for a page(usually we consider that 1 page = 1.500 characters, spaces included)". A couple of Italian agencies I worked for asked me rate per word and that was all I knew! You taught me a lot about what she meant by 1 page = 1,500 characters -- Cartella!!! If 1 caretella has only 220 words as standard, I do not need to repeat 0.1 Euro was TOO LITTLE for IT project. As Smarinella and Alessandro noted, I suppose I could suggest somewhere between 30 and 40 Euros for a page in rough calculation. I think Italian linguists working in Asian language or Asian linguists working in Italy can enlighten me on this point. I am afraid there are very few of them. Somehow I gave my client quote per word but reminded her if she feels uncomfortable with rate per word, we can discuss price for a page.


Jay

[Edited at 2008-02-05 15:54]


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Marie-Hélène Hayles  Identity Verified
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Price per cartella has nothing to do with price per word Feb 5, 2008

Jay Kim wrote:

If 1 caretella has only 220 words as standard, I do not need to repeat 0.1 Euro was TOO LITTLE for IT project.

Jay

[Edited at 2008-02-05 15:54]


We've given 220 words as a guideline, but that's all it is – cartelle are counted by number of characters, not words. For example, in this paragraph (from "We've" to "characters") there are 349 characters, equivalent to 0.23 cartelle, and 56 words. Another paragraph could contain more characters but fewer words, or more words but fewer characters.

[Edited at 2008-02-05 17:52]


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Jay Kim  Identity Verified
South Korea
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That understood Feb 19, 2008

Marie-Hélène Hayles wrote:

We've given 220 words as a guideline, but that's all it is – cartelle are counted by number of characters, not words. Another paragraph could contain more characters but fewer words, or more words but fewer characters.

[Edited at 2008-02-05 17:52]



Hi Marie,


That understood -- cartella is 1500 characters including spaces. Number of words can be more or less than 220 words. CORE of my ISSUE was Cartella quote vs. Per word quote. Considering rairty of my pair in Italy, I just meant my quote of 0.1 Euro was low based on-- assuming-- the input that 1 cartella has 220 words, for example. I absolutely had no idea how many words per each page her text contains, of course.

Hope I made myself clear!


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