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Proof-reading rates in Quebec
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yanadeni  Identity Verified
Canada
Local time: 16:27
French to Russian
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Mar 10, 2008

Actually I'm doing translation Fra>Rus for an agency and being paid 0.16/word. The source text is so awful and there are so many mistakes (from 2 to 10 and more per line (!!!) that I mentionned it to the agency and offered them to correct all the errors, asking 0.05/source word. They accepted without bargaining, but mentionned that the text should be adapted for French (it's in français québécois) and if possible for subtitles (actually, it's a script of promotional videos that'll be subtitled for France).

When I started to really proof-read the text, I found that I was really tough. Everything is to change! Not only correcting spelling or grammar mistakes, but completely reformulating whole sentences for it to be readable for subtitles and make sense.

The amount of source words is about 7500, and I estimate the proof-reading for at least 12-15 hours.
Well, the question is "Is it a good price for a job like this one?"


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Henry Hinds  Identity Verified
United States
Local time: 14:27
English to Spanish
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No Mar 10, 2008

You'd best get closer to you translating rate for that part, but of course your translating rate is not bad at all.

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Hepburn  Identity Verified
France
Local time: 22:27
English to French
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Fair pay Mar 10, 2008

Hello,

Could you specify the curency? Then, we will be able to give an opinion.

I charge proofreading by the hour at 30 USD or by word and it is then half my rates for translation. Those vary a lot according to the type of work.

If you have to rewrite the text and it takes you 15 hours, 0.04 seems too low, particularly in view of the charge for translation.

Claudette


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Per Magnus  Identity Verified
Local time: 22:27
English to Norwegian
Grin and bear it. Mar 10, 2008

You gave an offer and they accepted it.
Since it is only 15 hours, you should stick with your quotation. Next time, charge per hour. Proofreading differs enormously from document to document.

Per Magnus


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Lawyer-Linguist  Identity Verified
Portugal
Local time: 21:27
Dutch to English
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Precisely Mar 10, 2008

Per Magnus wrote:

You gave an offer and they accepted it.


If you quoted without determining what the work actually involved, and that quote was accepted, it's your loss.


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yanadeni  Identity Verified
Canada
Local time: 16:27
French to Russian
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... Mar 10, 2008

Claudette Hepburn wrote:

Could you specify the curency? Then, we will be able to give an opinion.
Canadian dollar.

Actually, I don't know our local rates yet. I've always worked as an inhouse translator and it's my first experience as freelancer. I asked for advice about rates my collegue who translates EN-DEU, FR-EN, FR-DEU and she told me she charged 0.18/word. Since I had no other references, I decided to charge smth around this considering my experience.

Lawyer-Linguist wrote:

If you quoted without determining what the work actually involved, and that quote was accepted, it's your loss.


The point is not to assure myself of a loss (finally it's not a big deal this time), but to learn real rates for this kind of job.

[Edited at 2008-03-10 12:52]


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ChrisGT  Identity Verified
Canada
Local time: 16:27
Member (2008)
English to French
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Translation... Mar 11, 2008

YaniQC wrote:

When I started to really proof-read the text, I found that I was really tough. Everything is to change! Not only correcting spelling or grammar mistakes, but completely reformulating whole sentences for it to be readable for subtitles and make sense.



It's not proofreading anymore, it's translation since you have to start all over. I charge proofreading, for example, on the work I do, i.e. when my translation goes to the graphic designer for layout, he/she sends it back to me to proofread before it goes to press to make sure that all the elements are in their rightful place and word separation is correct.

When a client asks me to review a translation already done, then it's editing, or translation if the work is very badly done, and I charge accordingly. In this case, I would have charged a translation rate (per word rate).


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yanadeni  Identity Verified
Canada
Local time: 16:27
French to Russian
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... Mar 11, 2008

ChrisGT wrote:

When a client asks me to review a translation already done, then it's editing, or translation if the work is very badly done, and I charge accordingly. In this case, I would have charged a translation rate (per word rate).


Thank you Chris.
Well, what do you think about my translation rates? Some told me they were a little bit excessive. I found that FRE-RUS, ENG-RUS were rated from 0.04 to 0.22$, so I'm confused...


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ChrisGT  Identity Verified
Canada
Local time: 16:27
Member (2008)
English to French
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Rates... Mar 11, 2008

YaniQC wrote:

ChrisGT wrote:

When a client asks me to review a translation already done, then it's editing, or translation if the work is very badly done, and I charge accordingly. In this case, I would have charged a translation rate (per word rate).


Thank you Chris.
Well, what do you think about my translation rates? Some told me they were a little bit excessive. I found that FRE-RUS, ENG-RUS were rated from 0.04 to 0.22$, so I'm confused...


I always charged an hourly rate for editing/proofreading, so I wouldn't know if the .05 cents/word that you are charging them is fair or not. As for the translation rate, you are working for a translation agency and I don't know anything about those either. I've never worked for one. However, it depends also on the location, some cities charge more than others, like in Vancouver. There is one lady that I had met once, she worked in Quebec City and did sub work for another translator who had contracts from the government agencies and she charged 19 cents/word. J'imagine qu'il faut "tâter le terrain" comme on dit ici...
Bonne chance!


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