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PayPal fees for the one who pays?
Thread poster: Janina Dörnath

Janina Dörnath  Identity Verified
Germany
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Mar 12, 2008

Hello everyone,

I would like to know if there are any fees if you want to pay someone via PayPal?

Thanks a lot in advance!

Regards


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Ivana de Sousa Santos  Identity Verified
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No Mar 12, 2008

Hello Janina,

You only pay when you receive money, not when you pay.

Ivana


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Adriana Grigorescu  Identity Verified
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No fees for the one who pays Mar 12, 2008

Ivana is right. There are no fees for the one who pays.

Regards


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Janina Dörnath  Identity Verified
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Thanks for quick replies :-) Mar 12, 2008

Hey Ivana and Adriana,

thanks for your quick replies. I asked because a PM wants to charge 10$ for a PayPal payment. That seemed strange to me.
Is it also free, if you make a payment from the US to Europe?

Regards


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Nicole Schnell  Identity Verified
United States
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From the US to Europe Mar 12, 2008

The transaction doesn't cost a cent.

I pay freelancers in Europe via Paypal all the time, amounts sometimes ranging in the four digits. No fee.

Please tell this PM that he / she

1.) Has no clue whatsoever, or
2.) Is a liar.

Unbelievable...

Next time you should add an invoice-writing-fee.

Best,

Nicole


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Janina Dörnath  Identity Verified
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That's good to know... Mar 12, 2008

Hi Nicole,

thanks a lot for this comment!

I already told this PM that I won't work with them. The PM told me that the company was very big in the US, so there might be quite a few translators who really pay this fee...

Thanks again and all the best
Janina


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Anindita Basu  Identity Verified
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"Charge" or "Expense"? Mar 12, 2008

Because, I *think* that in the US one says "charge" when one is referring to an item of expenditure.

Did the PM mean that $10 would be deducted from whatever was paid to you? In other words, did it means that if, say, the company owed you $100, you would end up getting $90?

I think that is okay, because what the PM *may* have meant is that you (the receiver of the money) is the one who is going to bear the expenses of the funds transfer. Which means that the company still pays you, say $100 through PayPal, but you get only $90.


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Ramon Inglada  Identity Verified
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I think I know the company you are talking about... Mar 12, 2008

Hi Janina,

Big company in the US that charges 10$ for a PayPal payment? Ah, it rings a bell indeed!

I think I know the company you refer to. If it's the same company, they basically deduct the 10$ fee for the great, insurmountable effort and huge administrative overhead that for them means having to pay you through PayPal. They only pay in US cheques and they don't like it when you tell them you don't want US cheques (not to be picky, but US cheques in Europe? I don't think so).

If it's the same company, I worked for them once and I wasn't informed of this "nice little fee" until it was too late. I'm still trying to get it back, as it basically means paying fees twice (from the company and from PayPal). Still, it's better than trying to cash a US cheque in Europe, especially for small amounts.

Cheers,

Ramon


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Astrid Elke Witte  Identity Verified
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It really sounds quite out of order Mar 12, 2008

Firstly, it does not make sense for the client to invoice the supplier for anything in connection with the goods or service supplied - it is simply the wrong way round.

Secondly, the client ought to be reimbursing the supplier's fees, paid to PayPal, because the supplier should not have to pay anything to receive the money due. In all fields of business, the client always pays any extra expenses - at least that is what is imposed upon me when I buy anything by mail order.

You have to watch the amount with PayPal as well. I do, in fact, absorb the cost of receiving PayPal payments where small amounts are involved. However, with larger amounts the client ought to be paying the bank transfer fees instead.

Astrid


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Nicole Schnell  Identity Verified
United States
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In a nutshell: It's illegal Mar 12, 2008

You can not charge for nothing. And that's it.

This so-called large company - I doubt it. In our beautiful, yet extremely sue-happy country, you wouldn't get away with stuff like that.


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Sonia Hill
United Kingdom
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I think I know the company too... Mar 13, 2008

Ramon Inglada wrote:

Hi Janina,

Big company in the US that charges 10$ for a PayPal payment? Ah, it rings a bell indeed!

I think I know the company you refer to. If it's the same company, they basically deduct the 10$ fee for the great, insurmountable effort and huge administrative overhead that for them means having to pay you through PayPal. They only pay in US cheques and they don't like it when you tell them you don't want US cheques (not to be picky, but US cheques in Europe? I don't think so).



I think I know the company too. Despite having offices in London and Brussels as well, they will only pay by US cheque. I now only take on large jobs for them, as it is not worth my while cashing a small US cheque over here. However, if you are expecting a fairly large amount of money, paying a US cheque into a UK account is much cheaper than receiving money by Paypal (it only costs £7 with my bank).

I can't see their justification for charging $10 for a Paypal payment. Surely it takes less effort to pay online than to write a cheque and pay for the stamp to post it?


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Janina Dörnath  Identity Verified
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Seems to be the same company Mar 13, 2008

Hello everyone and thanks for your help

Ramon and Sonia: Yes, I think we're talking about the same company. I haven't translated anything for them yet. They wanted to put me in their database and they sent me a lot of information material. There, I read that they wanted to deduct about 3$ for payments within Europe. That's strange enough because bank transfers within Europe are free. So, when I asked them, they told me that they only pay via US cheques. If I wanted bank transfers or PayPal, I had to get a special permission for it. The payment fee for bank transfers was 20$ and for PayPal it was 10$. And Ramon, they also try to tell me that they need 10$ for their extra work included in PayPal...??

I think I am not going to work for them anyway, no matter if they offer me a large project or not. As Nicole says, they want me to pay for nothing. And I agree with Astrid: "the supplier should not have to pay anything to receive the money due". They're trying to convince me and say that I should send them an invoice every month, but still I just think it's illegal.

If someone wants to know who they are, just contact me directly, as I am not sure if this is the right place to tell their name.

Again, thanks a lot!

Regards


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Rossana Triaca  Identity Verified
Uruguay
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English to Spanish
I don't really see the problem... Mar 13, 2008

The company claims they have an overhead of USD 10 to pay you using a specific method? Fine by me, I'll simply offer an increased per word rate to cover this expense (and I don't really care nor would I ask why they have such an overhead - they run their business and I run mine).

You have already committed to a rate and found about the USD 10 later on? Do the reverse math, see if the resulting rate is still attractive to you or make a counter-offer (negotiate). If it's not feasible or accepted, explain that the total sum is no longer profitable for you and part ways in an amicable way.

All in all, if it is a large project 10 bucks shouldn't be the decisive factor... for a small project, it very well may be. But in any event you can't burn them at the stake for stating their conditions beforehand; you just have to adapt and do the same.


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tonymacg  Identity Verified
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Exchange rates Mar 13, 2008

Ever checked PayPal's exchange rates against the rates your bank is offering that day? I'm not surprised someone is trying to recoup the differential.

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Luis M. Cuerdo Galarraga  Identity Verified
Spain
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Why paypal Mar 13, 2008

I agree with Rossana, if their conditions are clarified in advance you just have to adapt to them, i.e. increase your rate, if they are not it is simply illegal and you should check the POs.

The company claims they have an overhead of USD 10 to pay you using a specific method


And just to help solve the mistery, It just occured tom me that this 10 bucks cost could be derived from them transfering their money from their bank account into Paypal.
Surely they are not paid through Paypal and your bank will probably charge you for "uploading" money


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