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Apr 8, 2004

I'm posting this on behalf of a colleague. If you're a native speaker of English* and you're interested in helping out, you should contact her as indicated in the message below.

* As a defintion of 'native speaker of English', let's say that you enjoyed your entire secondary education (age 10-18 ) at an English-speaking school in an English-speaking country.

The test can be downloaded from this page: http://www.proz.com/home/23534/. You should also indicate in the test what variety of English you speak (e.g. US, British, Australian, SA, etc.).

Chris
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Dear All,
I am doing research on Universal Grammar for my thesis. For this research I need a large number of native speakers to do a small test. Therefore, I hope you will be so kind to fill in the attached test. There are only 9 items in the test so it will only take you about 10 minutes to fill in the form. You can send the form back by email to as an attachment.
Thank you very much,
Tineke Olieman


[Edited at 2004-04-21 17:36]


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Thanks Apr 21, 2004

Thanks to everyone who took the time to complete the test. My colleague is very grateful.

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Both sentences are wrong in #9. Apr 25, 2004

Chris Hopley wrote:

I'm posting this on behalf of a colleague. If you're a native speaker of English* and you're interested in helping out, you should contact her as indicated in the message below.

* As a defintion of 'native speaker of English', let's say that you enjoyed your entire secondary education (age 10-18 ) at an English-speaking school in an English-speaking country.

The test can be downloaded from this page: http://www.proz.com/home/23534/. You should also indicate in the test what variety of English you speak (e.g. US, British, Australian, SA, etc.).

Chris
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Dear All,
I am doing research on Universal Grammar for my thesis. For this research I need a large number of native speakers to do a small test. Therefore, I hope you will be so kind to fill in the attached test. There are only 9 items in the test so it will only take you about 10 minutes to fill in the form. You can send the form back by email to as an attachment.
Thank you very much,
Tineke Olieman


Both sentences are wrong in #9, which undercuts the credibility of the research a bit. They should say "whom", nor "who".

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says who? Apr 27, 2004

Ruth Henderson wrote:

Both sentences are wrong in #9, which undercuts the credibility of the research a bit. They should say "whom", nor "who".


One of the great things about English is that there is no one authority to tell us what is right or wrong, but only consensus and generally accepted usage.

The correct sentence in each pair is intended to be a reflection of general idiomatic spoken English. As such, it would be completely wrong to use whom, which in everyday speech comes across as rather affected. Don't take my word for it, though. Watch TV or listen to the radio or even a group of friends for a couple of hours and count the number of times you hear the word 'whom'....


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