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Edward Potter  Identity Verified
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Arnie Jan 6

The only prominent politician in my country who comes to mind is Arnold Schwarzenegger, the former Governor of California.

Although at times his accent might be a bit too thick for some, on balance this has been a plus for him. The idea is that anyone can come to the United States and make good for himself.


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Gennady Lapardin  Identity Verified
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Stalin Jan 6

had heavy Georgian (Caucasian) accent. This accent was and is largely imitated by Russians, when "quoting" Stalin, as a sign of respect. Also, it may be suspicious to hear a politician from Baltic region or Ukraina speak perfect Russian.

[Edited at 2012-01-06 07:53 GMT]


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Tom in London
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Heinous Jan 6


Ty Kendall wrote:

.... the most heinous crime in modern Britain: Racism


Racism is indeed a serious criminal offence, punishable by law, in the UK but is not the most heinous crime here; I believe the most heinous crime in modern Britain is murder.


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Ty Kendall  Identity Verified
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Sarcasm Jan 6

...was intended.

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Just Opera
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Belgium has 3 official languages: Dutch, French, and German. Jan 6

Elio Di Rupo, the francophone PM is often lambasted for his Dutch (spoken by nearly 60% of the population here.) After taking up the hot seat he was quoted as saying, "I need to improve my Dutch, I will work tirelessly to do this". note: Belgian French speakers are close to 39% of the population and German-speakers around 0.80%.

[Edited at 2012-01-06 17:10 GMT]


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Heinrich Pesch  Identity Verified
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Not quite in the scope of this topic... Jan 22

Last year a feature film was launched "Five Days in August" about the Russo-Georgian war 2008. Andy Garcia was playing Georgia's president Saakashvili, who speaks perfect American English, but in the movie Garcia speaks English with heavy Caucasian accent. Saakashvili was reported to have been deeply hurt.

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RtooDtoo
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Elio di Rupo again Feb 5


Just Opera wrote:

Elio Di Rupo, the francophone PM is often lambasted for his Dutch (spoken by nearly 60% of the population here.) After taking up the hot seat he was quoted as saying, "I need to improve my Dutch, I will work tirelessly to do this". note: Belgian French speakers are close to 39% of the population and German-speakers around 0.80%.

[Edited at 2012-01-06 17:10 GMT]


Just so. Dutch speakers have become so used to Premiers who have Dutch as their native language that they forget that just under half the country speaks French. Dutch-speaking premiers have inflicted some awful French on the French-speaking population, but this tends to be ignored in the absurd debate between the "language communities".


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Neil Coffey  Identity Verified
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"Foreign" accents in the UK Feb 6

The selection of UK prime ministers in the last few decades reflects an accent selection phenomenon that occurs in the UK for various "authority figures": that they can have either (a) a "standard" non-regional English accent, or (b) a Scottish (or Welsh) accent, be they from wherever.

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RafalW
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it depends... Feb 6

I guess it would have to boil down to a simple question - what is their L1? I find people who pretend that they've acquired a foreign accent after living abroad for a short period of time dense.
From my personal experience [20 years abroad], I can tell you that I still speak without a shadow of an accent in my L1, yet I'd managed to perfect my English pronunciation.


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Bin Tiede  Identity Verified
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A play with words Feb 19


Tom in London wrote:


Ty Kendall wrote:

.... the most heinous crime in modern Britain: Racism


Racism is indeed a serious criminal offence, punishable by law, in the UK but is not the most heinous crime here; I believe the most heinous crime in modern Britain is murder.

To be politically correct we may say: The most heinous modern crime in Britain is racism.


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Helena Chavarria  Identity Verified
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But you can't lower your guard Feb 19


RafalW wrote:

I guess it would have to boil down to a simple question - what is their L1? I find people who pretend that they've acquired a foreign accent after living abroad for a short period of time dense.
From my personal experience [20 years abroad], I can tell you that I still speak without a shadow of an accent in my L1, yet I'd managed to perfect my English pronunciation.


Although I still speak English like a native, some years ago I discovered I had started to phrase my sentences as though I was speaking Spanish: "Please could you tell me..." instead of "Could you please tell me...". I've even had to google the title of my post, just to make sure I hadn't translated from Spanish!

I also tend to speak English more slowly than Spanish. I don't know if this is because I'm used to speaking to non-native speakers of English or if it's because I haven't kept up with the times. I recently read that we are speeding up everything we do, including speech. I speak Spanish at the rate of knots but I speak English as I did in 1977!


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