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Thread poster: José Luis Villanueva-Senchuk
José Luis Villanueva-Senchuk  Identity Verified
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Dec 31, 2004

I quote a message I got from the Rotary International District 3000 Secretary, Sd.Prof R Panchanadhan:


Dear Villanuevao
Grateful.
Thanq for your response.
WE NEED YOUR HELP - in cash or kind - medicines [cholera vaccines, ciprofloxacin tabs, plasters, gloves, face masks,tetenus vaccines, phenol, bleaching powder], clothes, blankets, vessels, mineral water, empty water bottles - EVERYTHING THEY NEED FOR EARLY REHABILTATION.
[This is interesting - ProZ.com might want to adopt a village to the extent of possibilities] R I Dist 3000 plans to adopt a village or two for rehabilitation, in every sense - construction of houses, establishing homes, repairing fishing trollers, creating employment opprtunities for men, adopting orphaned children. Your monetary contribution may be in favour of "R I Dist 3000 Fund"
Please do help in whatever way possible
Rtn Prof R Panchanadhan
Dist Secretary R I Dist 3000 - part of Tamilnadu State - India
5, 9th Cross, 7th Main, Srinivasanagar, TIRUCHIRAPALLI 620 017, INDIA



[Edited at 2004-12-31 02:56]

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Anil Goyal  Identity Verified
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"Thanks, but no thanks" Dec 31, 2004

Jos頌uis Villanueva-Senchuk wrote:

This is what India is requesting as of now...



As an Indian I thank everybody who have shown their concern for tsunami-buffeted Asian nations. However, India never requested for any aid to handle the situation. India government has clarified that they are capable to handle the situation on their own.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20041230.windi1230front/BNStory/Front/

The request quoted above is from a non-goverment organisation working on relief work on their own and their efforts are appreciated. However, the title of the post needs to be changed to reflect this fact.


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Give Dec 31, 2004

Anil Goyal wrote:

José Œuis Villanueva-Senchuk wrote:

This is what India is requesting as of now...



As an Indian I thank everybody who have shown their concern for tsunami-buffeted Asian nations. However, India never requested for any aid to handle the situation. India government has clarified that they are capable to handle the situation on their own.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20041230.windi1230front/BNStory/Front/

The request quoted above is from a non-goverment organisation working on relief work on their own and their efforts are appreciated. However, the title of the post needs to be changed to reflect this fact.


Perhaps India wants to help the other nations devastated by the tsunami.
As a Canadian, I have donated money, as we have been told that donations of clothing and other items are too expensive to ship and are often inappropriate. I encourage everyone to give as much as they can. The relief effort and rebuilding effort over the next many years will undoubtedly be expensive.


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The title was edited (thank you, Henry) Dec 31, 2004

Anil Goyal wrote:

José Œuis Villanueva-Senchuk wrote:

This is what India is requesting as of now...



As an Indian I thank everybody who have shown their concern for tsunami-buffeted Asian nations. However, India never requested for any aid to handle the situation. India government has clarified that they are capable to handle the situation on their own.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20041230.windi1230front/BNStory/Front/

The request quoted above is from a non-goverment organisation working on relief work on their own and their efforts are appreciated. However, the title of the post needs to be changed to reflect this fact.


Anil,

Henry changed the title of my post while I was resting so thanks to him.

I do not want to get into politics, it is not the time to do so. It is the time to HELP. But... while India (i.e. the Establishment) and the paper say they do not need help, those I know in India and the region ARE requesting for help.

José Luis

[Edited at 2004-12-31 11:21]


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Hans G. Liepert  Identity Verified
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What India needs Dec 31, 2004

Anil Goyal wrote:
India government has clarified that they are capable to handle the situation on their own.


The pictures from TV stations all over the world tell a different story


However, the title of the post needs to be changed to reflect this fact.


I wish we had your problems!


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Subhamay Ray  Identity Verified
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Thanks, Anil! Dec 31, 2004

Thanks for putting things in their proper perspective. I am grateful to all those colleagues who have expressed sympathy for the victims. From my reasonably long administrative experience of working in some remote Indian villages and tackling a much minor natural disaster like the floods, I feel "foreign aid" may not mean much in the end unless you have the systems in place to take them to the people when they really need them. In the midst of such disasters I have always felt that real help comes from those who are ready to work long-term and most often these are the indigenous sources and agencies. The need is to rebuild and that is a tall order. I would refuse to share all this euphoria about donations and aid immediately after a disaster and haven't we seen from our experience that most of us tend to forget those who would still live and suffer? I would love to see many of us remembering those who have survived a year from now.

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José Luis Villanueva-Senchuk  Identity Verified
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I have done Dec 31, 2004

volunteer work since I was 16 years old and I do not agree.

It is true that many times many resources get "lost" and never reach the people that need them the most. But, if you have an NGO that is going out to the people and taking resources (food, medications, etc.) with them and delivering in hand, I beleive it is worth the help.

Some NGOs have started plans to build primary med care facilities, schools, wells, etc. and those structures will be there (where needed) well after a year from now.

In disasters such as this, you have two stages (I will not go into details): A immediate relief and help and B long term infrastructure. Stage A needs supplies in-kind or funds for those serious NGOs to decide what is best and most needed. With the funds they are able to buy and distribute truely needed suppplies.

JL


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E.LA
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agree Dec 31, 2004

I agree with that what José said. People needs help and it must NOT be important WHO gives the help.

José Luis Villanueva-Senchuk wrote:

Anil Goyal wrote:

José Œuis Villanueva-Senchuk wrote:

This is what India is requesting as of now...



As an Indian I thank everybody who have shown their concern for tsunami-buffeted Asian nations. However, India never requested for any aid to handle the situation. India government has clarified that they are capable to handle the situation on their own.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20041230.windi1230front/BNStory/Front/

The request quoted above is from a non-goverment organisation working on relief work on their own and their efforts are appreciated. However, the title of the post needs to be changed to reflect this fact.


Anil,

Henry changed the title of my post while I was resting so thanks to him.

I do not want to get into politics, it is not the time to do so. It is the time to HELP. But... while India (i.e. the Establishment) and the paper say they do not need help, those I know in India and the region ARE requesting for help.

José Luis

[Edited at 2004-12-31 11:21]


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Claudia Iglesias  Identity Verified
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Clarification Dec 31, 2004

E.LA wrote:
I agree with that what José said. People needs help and it must NOT be important WHO gives the help.


Anil's comment was just about the title of the initial posting, which was wrong as it didn't reflect the official position of the Government of India.

Claudia


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E.LA
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lost memory Dec 31, 2004

I know what you mean. A lot of people is now talking about the tragedy, but already in February have forgotten all and are back to life. I lived in poor countries and I know what it means when the problem goes on...
But that does not mean to ignore or refuse help from others with discussions and pesimistic opinions.
Especially because this happend nearby Christmas, it can stay in the memory of a lot of people.
The risk of lost memory exists - that's just the reason why I opened the idea of a long-term help and fund from Prozians.
(look my posting in Proz).

On the other side, I agree with your comment that local aid is the most efective. That's the reason why my eyes are looking to Sri Lanka and Sumatra. Apparently, they do not have the same local and national aid as India.


Subhamay Ray wrote:

Thanks for putting things in their proper perspective. I am grateful to all those colleagues who have expressed sympathy for the victims. From my reasonably long administrative experience of working in some remote Indian villages and tackling a much minor natural disaster like the floods, I feel "foreign aid" may not mean much in the end unless you have the systems in place to take them to the people when they really need them. In the midst of such disasters I have always felt that real help comes from those who are ready to work long-term and most often these are the indigenous sources and agencies. The need is to rebuild and that is a tall order. I would refuse to share all this euphoria about donations and aid immediately after a disaster and haven't we seen from our experience that most of us tend to forget those who would still live and suffer? I would love to see many of us remembering those who have survived a year from now.


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