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NancyLynn
Canada
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Apr 11, 2005

Hello everyone,
We have here in North America something called Reverse Lookup, where you can type in a phone number and discover to whom it belongs.
I would like to do this with a foreign number. Alas, I don't even know the originating country. I have the number on my call display and am dancing with curiosity. Would someone in our great group know where I can start with this investigation?
Many thanks!
Nancy


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Kevin Fulton
United States
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German to English
Is the country prefix/area code displayed? Apr 11, 2005

If the country prefix is displayed, you can then use that to determine the originating country. Try googling the entire number (with/without country code) to see what comes up.

I've discovered in calling back and forth between the US and Canada, sometimes the whole number is displayed, sometimes not. Sometimes even a different originating number is displayed. My daughter reported the other day that a call I made to her cell phone from Michigan showed a Montreal area code and an entirely different number; I assume that this was due to some sort of carrier service shift.


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Bruce Popp  Identity Verified
United States
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start with country Apr 11, 2005

Hi,

You got an international phone number on your caller ID? Wow. I'm a little surprised that it's possible.

I suppose the first step would be to identify the country. The first two or three digits are likely to be the country code, unless it was omitted. If the country code was omitted, then you may need other information to figure out the country. The web page where you do reverse number lookup likely also has a list of country codes. 33 is France and 32 is Belgium.

With the country I would look for the web page of a telecom providor in that country (e.g. France Telecom, Belgacom) and try to find a reverse number look up on their site.

Good luck!
Bruce


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NancyLynn
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I was surprised, too Apr 11, 2005

But every single phone number in North America consists of 7 digits + 1 + a 3 digit area code. This number starts with 1, followed by 9 digits.
I looked in the Bell Canada Directory, the beginning pages where they describe the international codes. I knew of course about 33 and 44; I also knew that 852 is Hong Kong, which is what I assumed first, but the numbers are actually 582, which could be 58 or 582, right?
Google had nothing.

Nancy


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Charlie Bavington  Identity Verified
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Venezuela? Apr 11, 2005

+58 is Venezuela, 2 is Caracas

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NancyLynn
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Charlie: that's it Apr 11, 2005

I found www.countrycallingcodes.com/Reverse-Lookup.php?calling-code=58 and since there was a code for 58 but not for 582, I came to the same conclusion as you.
Now to find reverse lookup for Venezuela!
Thanks very much to all for your ideas.

Nancy

[Edited at 2005-04-11 16:15]


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Can Altinbay  Identity Verified
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There are not ambiguous Apr 11, 2005

NancyLynn wrote:

I found www.countrycallingcodes.com/Reverse-Lookup.php?calling-code=58 and since there was a code for 58 but not for 582, I came to the same conclusion as you.
Now to find reverse lookup for Venezuela!
Thanks very much to all for your ideas.

Nancy

[Edited at 2005-04-11 16:15]


Since there is a 58, there is not likely to be a 582. This system uses a type of code that uses fewer digits for frequently used numbers. If the longer sequences shared their earlier digits with a different country code, there would be an ambiguity that would make it inefficient to decode.
FYI.


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Clarisa Moraña  Identity Verified
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Caracas is 212 Apr 12, 2005

Charlie Bavington wrote:

+58 is Venezuela, 2 is Caracas


+ 58 is Venezuela, but Caracas is 212.

Regards,

Clarisa


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Charlie Bavington  Identity Verified
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google the phone number Apr 12, 2005

Now you know which bit is the country code, leave that bit off and google the rest.

If it's a business with its phone number on a web page somewhere, google'll find it.

(you *may* need to try various 'layouts', not sure how Venezuelans format their phone numbers)


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NancyLynn
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Googling doesn't produce the result I seek Apr 12, 2005

probably because the number is 5827XXXXX.

I think there are not enough digits.

What a mystery!

Nancy


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Dan Schioenning Larsen
Romania
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Venezuela yellow/white pages Apr 12, 2005

NancyLynn wrote:
Now to find reverse lookup for Venezuela!
Thanks very much to all for your ideas.
Nancy


http://www.laguia.com.ve/

Oh, wait. That doesn't do reverse lookup. Sorry.


[Edited at 2005-04-12 16:59]

[Edited at 2005-04-12 16:59]


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