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Thread poster: Sonja Tomaskovic
Sonja Tomaskovic  Identity Verified
Germany
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Dec 10, 2005

Today I received an email from a Russian person who is asking for food donations, amongst other things.

Of course, my first thought was "Scam!", and I was already heading toward the delete button.

However, there are two things that actually make me think: firstly, this guy does not primarily ask for money (he does later on in the email) but for donations of any kind, be it canned food, medication, old clothing, etc. Secondly, he gives his address so people can actually send him the goods. I am not sure scammers would give out their address which can be used to trace them.

Nevertheless this may still be scam, and this person may still try to make a profit by selling the things people send him, etc.

Anyway, before I really delete this one I wanted to make sure that it is scam. Has anyone else received this kind of email?

Alternatively, is there a Russian colleague out there living near or in Kaluga, Russia, and can confirm that

...Due to the deep crisis, authorities stoped gas in our district ...


Thanks for your efforts and sorry if this has been discussed before. I searched the fora but only found something in the Russian forum. Unfortunately I don't know any Russian at all.

Sonja


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Hynek Palatin  Identity Verified
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Valentin Dec 10, 2005

Have you tried to Google the phrase? This is one of the results:

Alle Jahre wieder bittet Valentin um Spenden


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Ricki Farn
Germany
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See here Dec 10, 2005

Here is a comment in German

http://www.tu-berlin.de/www/software/showtxt.shtml?valentin05

(to find this, enter your sentence fragment together with the word "hoax" in Google).

These bloggers themselves are not sure what he is up to:

http://www.tu-berlin.de/www/software/weblog.shtml#05164

Here is a comment about the same mail in French:

http://www.hoaxbuster.com/hoaxliste/hoax.php?idArticle=6296

(they assume that he sells the acquired things on the black market)

All the best,
Ricki (who after some bad experiences only gives to those she can somehow verify, such as the local homeless initiative)


[Edited at 2005-12-10 09:23]


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Kirill Semenov  Identity Verified
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Scam Dec 10, 2005

I found an article in Russian which describes the case in details.

http://www.oxpaha.ru/view.asp?390

Unfortunately, it's too large to translate, but it's obviously a scam. The guy was under trial (possibly twice), but due to not very good law system he cannot be convicted. The article is a long story of the guy who sent thousands of emails a month.

In particular, the article states:

"In December 1998 and January 1999 the family (the author himself, his older brother and his mother) received in 30 different post offices 79 parcel from abroad, and during the first 5 months of 1999 - 24 more parcels + 48 small packages.
People sent them clothes, food and money. It's probably due to these that Mihailin and his family, without having any regular work, not only managed to pay for the Internet service but also to hire a lawyer".


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bohy  Identity Verified
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Ask hoaxbuster... Dec 10, 2005

Sonja Tomaskovic wrote:

Today I received an email from a Russian person who is asking for food donations, amongst other things.

Of course, my first thought was "Scam!", and I was already heading toward the delete button.

However, there are two things that actually make me think: firstly, this guy does not primarily ask for money (he does later on in the email) but for donations of any kind, be it canned food, medication, old clothing, etc. Secondly, he gives his address so people can actually send him the goods. I am not sure scammers would give out their address which can be used to trace them.

Nevertheless this may still be scam, and this person may still try to make a profit by selling the things people send him, etc.

Anyway, before I really delete this one I wanted to make sure that it is scam. Has anyone else received this kind of email?

Alternatively, is there a Russian colleague out there living near or in Kaluga, Russia, and can confirm that

...Due to the deep crisis, authorities stoped gas in our district ...


Thanks for your efforts and sorry if this has been discussed before. I searched the fora but only found something in the Russian forum. Unfortunately I don't know any Russian at all.

Sonja


The best place when receiving such mails is hoaxbuster :
cut a significant part of the mail you received and paste it into the search box at http://www.hoaxbuster.com
Every mail that I receivd turned out to be a known hoax...
If not, you can contact the hoaxbuster team with your finding.
They may decide that it is not scam !
Here's what they say:
Vous avez reçu un message suspect qui ne se trouve pas dans notre liste, envoyez-le nous, nous entamerons les recherches et y apporterons des réponses claires.
Vous souhaitez nous aider, rien de plus simple, rejoignez-nous, écrivez nous à :
redaction@hoaxbuster.com


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Sonja Tomaskovic  Identity Verified
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Thanks. Dec 10, 2005

Thanks to all. I did a search on Google Germany, but all that turned up was a page that could not tell whether this was a genuine request or scam.

Sonja


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Kirill Semenov  Identity Verified
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More details Dec 10, 2005

Another Internet resources state that Valentin and a friend of his sent to the developed countries emails where they demanded from people some material assistance and money. Otherwise they threatened to perform terroristic attacks in the USA and Western Europe. The emails were `signed' by a group of military officers from a local division of Russian strategic forces (with nuclear weapons).

In the result the friend of Valentin was sent to prison for 1 year, but Valentin himself being under-aged was granted a pardon.

[Edited at 2005-12-10 10:25]


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Barbara Micheletto
Italy
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Same here... Dec 10, 2005

Hi Sonja! I received the same mail approx. 10 days ago. I'm relieved you asked since I believed it was genuine, and not a scam. Anyway, I deleted it the same as I thought it was too expensive for me to send a parcel to Russia. A well-conceived scam, isn't it?
B.


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Piotr Bienkowski  Identity Verified
Poland
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The first result of Russian embargo... Dec 11, 2005

...on Polish food imports.

I'm kidding of course, but I could not stop myself.

Piotr


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