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eva75
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Jul 1, 2006

Hoofstede has done many studies on intercultural differences. Below is a link where you can compare the culture (based on 4 indicators) of your home country with that you wish to move to. Interesting and true results.

the link:
http://www.geert-hofstede.com/hofstede_dimensions.php

[Edited at 2006-07-01 22:04]


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Anjo Sterringa  Identity Verified
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Where is the link? Jul 1, 2006

I cannot see the link, although it's too late for me! Don't know what my home country is now....

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Benno Groeneveld  Identity Verified
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Less than useless Jul 2, 2006

since Hoofstede only uses four factors, which leads to over-generalizations. It is an insult to the intelligence of serious students of cultural differences.

Since the charts have 'facts' and 'numbers', they'll probably be used to strengthen sterotypes among people who don't want to take the trouble to actually study a country.

For example: Hoofstede ranks the US as more masculine, and the Netherlands with more equality between the sexes. Tell that to the women in the Netherlands who still bump up against a glass (or rather concrete in many cases) ceiling, while in the US the genders are treated much more equally. And if there are cases of discrimination, women can and do use the court system to right these wrongs.

A Dutch-American.


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ViktoriaG  Identity Verified
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Thanks for posting this! Jul 2, 2006

I think this is an excellent way to quickly compare different cultures.

I don't agree with Benno - sorry

The aspects each country is evaluated on are cultural ones. When they say a country is "masculine", they don't mean that there is sexual discrimination, etc. They mean that it is a culture that believes in the differences between the sexes. For example, for Hungary, this rating is very high. Trust me, they don't segregate women over there and the difference between the wages women get vs. those of men is much smaller than in Canada, a country that is not nearly as "masculine" as Hungary according to the website. But in Hungary, men are STILL the breadwinners and they are STILL those who fix the car. When you go to a pub, most of the people there are men, even if women don't see any inconvenience in visiting a pub. However, men DO take active part in the upbringing of children and they do many other things that are considered as women's chores in Canada - a country much less "masculine".

I've checked several countries I know enough of to know whether that website is right or wrong. Their indications are real. I would not recommend to move anywhere with only this information in your pocket - a country needs to be thoroughly researched before moving in. But as a simplified comparison tool, it's great!

[Edited at 2006-07-02 06:19]


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eva75
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General trends not generalisations Jul 2, 2006

I have also lived in several countries and have friends the world over, and I do think the data is quite reliable.

They are not generalisations, but noticeable trends in each culture. I always tend to disagree with those who say "people are the same everywhere". Not so! From my own experience, there are some common factors, but people are very much influenced by the laws and regulations, history and so on of their country. This shapes their personalities (of course, there are always exceptions to the rule, some unconventional souls)

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