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Jan 31, 2007

"Whilst income tax constitutes the primary tax burden in France, you should not forget the "Taxe d'Habitation" – Community Charge. This tax is assessed on the occupants of all types of accommodation, as of 1st January each year. The basis of the community charge is the rental value of the property, irrespective of it being owned or rented by you. The Community Charge usually amounts to less than one month’s rent. You will receive the bill in October for payment by 15th November at the latest."

Source: https://www.cic.fr/en/bank/personal-banking/settling-in-france/no-nonsense-guide-to-living-in-france/index.html#I9

I will soon be moving to France but this will be my secondary residence. Are any of you translators in a similar position?

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Patricia Lane  Identity Verified
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all pay Jan 31, 2007

hi eva,

regardless of whether your fiscal residence (ie primary) is in France or elsewhere, if you have a secondary residence in France, be it as a tenant or an owner, you will pay the taxe d'habitation.

patricia


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Lesley Clayton
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TV licence included Jan 31, 2007

The TV licence (€116, I think) is now included in the taxe d'habitation so if you don't have a TV in the house (and that includes British satellite TV), inform the tax office well before they send the bill.

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eva75
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less or same if secondary residence? Jan 31, 2007

Patricia Lane wrote:

hi eva,

regardless of whether your fiscal residence (ie primary) is in France or elsewhere, if you have a secondary residence in France, be it as a tenant or an owner, you will pay the taxe d'habitation.

patricia


Yes, I am aware of that. But in fact, I would like to know if it is less because this would be a secondary and not a primary residence.

Also, where can I find a list of this residence tax in all French communes for comparison sake.

TIA.


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Internet tax Jan 31, 2007

Lesley Clayton wrote:

The TV licence (€116, I think) is now included in the taxe d'habitation so if you don't have a TV in the house (and that includes British satellite TV), inform the tax office well before they send the bill.


Thanks for that. No TV fortunately, but with threats from the French government of imposing this new Internet tax, guess we'll all be caught out there.

PS there is a petition against this new tax on the Net somewhere...


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katsy
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secondary/main residence - même combat! Jan 31, 2007

Hello eva75.
The amount of your taxe d'habitation has nothing to do with whether it's your main or secondary residence. It's according to the local authorities (la commune, la région)... , and it is usually something to do with the size of the place ( to be honest I've never really bothered to find out the details) ; also to do with how much tax the region and the commune needs to raise from individuals as opposed to companies...
Where would you be able to compare? don't know exactly, but you might start by looking on the site of the 'conseil régional' of the area, or the préfecture, or again at the site of the tax office that must be mentioned on one of your taxe d'habitation ' demands. Hope this helps.

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Patricia Lane  Identity Verified
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actually possibly higher Feb 1, 2007

Eva,

the fact that this would be your secondary residence in no way suggests that the taxe d'habitation would be lower than for a primary residence.

as another poster mentioned, rates differ by commune, department, region. you can take a look at www.taxe.com for some info (but double check with tax authorities).

one's income is also taken into account when the taxe d'habitation is calculated. interestingly, you can be not liable for income tax and have a partial or total discount on the taxe d'habitation for your primary residence, but there is no reduction possible for the taxe d'habitation on your secondary residence.

c'est la vie!

patricia


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Lesley Clayton
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Ask the vendors Feb 1, 2007

The only way you can really find out how much this tax will be is to ask the vendors how much their last bill was, or even ask the tax office for that particular property.

There are too many variables in the calculation to be able to get a ball-park figure - the rate set by the commune, department, etc. (as already mentioned). They also take into account the surface area, how many rooms, bathrooms and loos there are, whether the house has central heating, etc. So your tax would not necessarily be the same as your neighbour's and if you make any declarable improvements to the property, your tax may increase depending on what those improvements are.

Hope this helps.


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