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yolanda Speece  Identity Verified
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Feb 27, 2007

In the United States we have elementary schools(k-5th and sometimes 6th), middle school (7th -8th , sometimes 6th and/or 9th ) and high school (10th-12th and sometimes 9th)

Then there is technical schools where a person goes to learn a trade such as HVAC, or medical office specialist.

Then there is Community College where a person can receive a two-year education and can either transfer to a 4 year university or go out into the work force.

What are some of the equivalents in your countries and what are they called.
Please try to provide your explanations in English but provide the equivalent term in your own language.

Thanks for participating!


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lexical  Identity Verified
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A start... Feb 27, 2007

This site gives a very good overview of schooling in England (beware that arrangements are different in Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland, but there are links to these) http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/actionnetwork/A1181792

I think you should reflect that you are asking a hugely widesweeping question akin to asking "Please describe your country's system of democratic government". Why not do some research yourself?

At a push, I might be able to give you similar information about the system in Spain - would you prefer it in Spanish (Castellano), Catalan, Basque or Gallego? I'm afraid we don't do American.


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xxxPetra Raspel
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Germany Feb 27, 2007

Since I'm a native German (although living in the UK), I'll give you some of the German terms:

Primarstufe (primary education):
Grundschule = primary/elementary school (age 6-10, grade 1 to 4)

The secondary education is a bit more complicated in Germany, but I'll try it anyway

Sekundarstufe 1 (lower secondary education):
Hauptschule = lowest form of secondary education. Here you can make the very basic exams. Age is 10 - 15/16 (grades 5 to 9/10). Can be left with a "Hauptschulabschluss 9. Klasse" or "Hauptschulabschluss 10. Klasse", the latter is a slightly higher qualification
Realschule = higher form of secondary education than Hauptschule, can be left after grade 10 with "Mittlere Reife"

Sekundarstufe II (upper secondary education):
Gesamtschule = some sort of comprehensive school which leaves all options open. Every exam from "Hauptschulabschluss" over "Mittlere Reife" up to "Abitur" can be made here, depending on the individual abilities of the student. You can leave after Sekundarstufe I (which is roundabout the age of 16) or go on and take higher exams like Abitur.
Gymnasium = grammar school. Highest form of secondary education, although this school can as well be left after grade 10. But normally, students leave by the age of 19 (some even 18) after grade 13. Or you can leave after grade 12 and gain a "Fachhochschulreife" instead of "Abitur". Abitur gives you the opportunity to go to Uni afterwards, while Fachhochschulreife only makes you able to go to a Fachhochschule, which is like some sort of college.

There's many other possibilities (Berufsschulen, Hoehere Handelsschulen etc.) but this would really be too much here. They mostly are like specialzed colleges or schools.

Normally, if you gain a Sekundarstufe 1 exam like Hautschulabschluss or Mittlere Reife, you go on to vocational training or apprenticeship afterwards, while the Sekundarstufe 2 qualifications Fachhochschulreife and Abitur are supposed to lead you into Colleges or University. Of course someone with a high qualification can also start an apprenticeship, while it is not possible the other way round.

Hope that helped


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Henry Hinds  Identity Verified
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A Tall Order Feb 27, 2007

Educational systems not only vary from country to country, but from one locality to another and are constantly in a state of flux. Equivalencies are hard to find and are always very relative.

You just have to work with the situation like that, you don´t have any fixed solutions.

When posing a question, always be sure to state the origin and destination countries, that really helps.


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Elisabetta M.  Identity Verified
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france Feb 27, 2007

3-6 years: ecole maternelle (3 yrs), then Ecole Primaire (5 years: Cours Préparatoire (CP), CE1, CE 2 (Cours Elementaire 1 et 2), CM 1; CM 2 (Cours Moyen 1 et 2).
When 10-11 kids enter Collège for 4 years. Starting in 6ème (sixième), then cinquième, quatrième and troisième.
After Collège: 3 years in Lycée:Seconde; Première, Terminale.


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Anne Marie B
Canada
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Au Québec, Canada Feb 27, 2007

In Québec, we have kindergarden for kids 5 to 6 years old ("pré-maternelle" (offered by a few schools only and not mandatory) and "maternelle").

Then comes primary school (6-12 year old - "première" to "sixième année").

After, a kid goes to highschool (12 to 17 year old - "secondaire 1" to "secondaire 5").

We then go to College, called CÉGEP (Collège d'enseignement général et professionnel). There the programs that lead directly to university take a minimum of 2 years to complete and the professional ones 3.

And there is then university, which you join when you are 19 years old if you have not skipped a year of school or done something else before attending.

The schooling system is a little different in the English provinces of Canada and one of our colleague may give you a better description then me.

Did I mention: I absolutely loved going to school!


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Kristine Sprula (Lielause)  Identity Verified
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Latvia Feb 27, 2007

In Latvia we have three levels of education.

1st LEVEL (compulsory): elementary education (LV - pamatskola), divided into 2 stages:
stage one - form 1-6
stage two - form 7-9

2nd LEVEL: secondary education (LV - vidējā izglītība)
form 10-12
professional secondary education

Duration of education:
Elementary education – 9 years (children aged from 6-7 to 15-16).
Secondary education - 3 to 5 years:
general secondary education – 3 years (age from 15-16 to 18-19)
secondary special education following the elementary education - 4 – 5 years
professional education – 2 – 4 years
professional programs - 1 – 2 years

NO ACADEMIC DEGREE IS AWARDED AFTER THE 2ND LEVEL

3rd LEVEL: higher education (LV - augstākā izglītība)

The higher education is divided into 2 stages:
stage one - college education
professional academic higher education
stage two - master studies, doctoral program

Duration of the higher education (age from 18 – 19 to 27-29):
bachelor's programs 3 – 4.5 years
master's programs – 2 years
doctoral programs – 3-4 years
professional programs – 0.5 – 1.5 years
professional programs – 4+ years
college professional programs 1.5 – 2 years


http://www.euroeducation.net/prof/latviaco.htm

[Rediģēts plkst. 2007-02-27 22:40]


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Anne Patteet  Identity Verified
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Three years of "maternal":

première gardienne (or maternelle)
deuxième gardienne (or maternelle)
troisieme gardienne (or maternelle)

Six years of primary or elementary school:

première primaire
deuxième primaire
troisième primaire
quatrième primaire
cinquième primaire
sixième primaire

Six years of secondary school:

première secondaire
deuxième secondaire
troisième secondaire
quatrième secondaire
cinquième secondaire
sixième secondaire or "réthorique"

I agree with previous posts, it is possible to do a little search to find this information.
http://www.euroeducation.net/prof/belcofr.htm


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Ritu Bhanot  Identity Verified
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India Feb 28, 2007

3 years (app.)

Nursery School
Nursery > Lower Kg > Upper Kg

KG - Short for Kindergarten

(These days some schools combine both Lower Kg and Upper Kg)

5 Years (in some states 6 years) - Entrance to Formal Schooling

Primary School: Class 1 to 5

Middle School: Class 6 to 8

Secondary School: Class 9 and 10
(Class 10th is the level of old Matriculation)

Senior Secondary School:
Class 11 and 12
(Students choose the streams i.e. Arts, Commerce and Science at this level)

After this level there is still some choice eg. Science students can migrate to Arts and Commerce Stream and Commerce Students can choose Arts. But from what I know it's not possible to change stream if one chose Arts at SS Level.

Graduation:
B.A. (Bachelor of Arts)/
B.Com. (Bachelor of Commerce)/
B. Sc. (Bachelor of Science)

All three are three years courses.

There are also choices of B.A./ B.Sc./ B.Com. Honours courses
Honours courses are specialised courses that give special emphasis to one particular subject, but some other related (and sometimes not at all related) subjects, too, are taught as part of honours courses.

Graduation Specialised:

Eg. for Medicine (5 years)/ Engineering (4 years) etc.


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A.Đapo  Identity Verified
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Bosnia Feb 28, 2007

Primary school (osnovna škola) age 6-15 (1st-9th grade)
Secundary school (srednja škola) age 15-19 (1st-4th grade)- there are schools with three-year programs for cooks or car-mechanics
There are two types of secundary schools:
gimnazija- where students focus on general knowledge, languages and math.
specialized schools like medical-to become a nurse, chemical-to become a chem. tech or economy to become an accountant.
After this you go to Uni for 2 or 4 years depending on what you study.


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smarinella  Identity Verified
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The school in Italy Feb 28, 2007

In Italy we have:

scuola elementare (classes 1 to 5)

scuola media (classes 6-7-8)

and then

'scuola superiore' (classes 9-13) of three different kinds:

a) liceo (classico, scientifico, tecnologico, linguistico artistico)

b) istituto tecnico (commerciale, geometri, industriale, turistico, nautico, areonautico ecc.)

c) istituto professionale (where you can stop at the 11th class and receive a 'small diploma' or continue to the 13th class): per segretari d'azienda, per l'industria e l'artigianato, per la moda ecc.ecc.


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ozan karakış
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Turkey Feb 28, 2007

Anaokulu Age 4-6 - Pre-school
İlköğretim 1-8 (grades) - Primary/Elementary (obligatory)
Lise 9-11 (grades) (12 in some schools) - High School
There are technical/vocational high schools (3 to 4 years)

Finally the university education.


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Nicole Schnell  Identity Verified
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Germany: Gymnasium = high school (AE) Feb 28, 2007

Petra Raspel wrote:

Gymnasium = grammar school. Highest form of secondary education



In the US, Gymnasium should never be translated with grammar school. It might raise an eyebrow..

Besides that, Petra's explanation of the German school system is excellent.


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Iffat Chowdhury  Identity Verified
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Bangladesh education system Feb 28, 2007

If you want to know the education system in Bangaldesh, you have to have good patience to read a several thousand words! It is really huge and extremely diversified.

Basically we have three major types of education

General education (mixture of Bengali and English medium)
English medium schools (often follow UK curriculum)
Madrasa education (government registered and non-registered-mixture Arabic, Bengali and English medium)

Well I would like to focus on general education only.

Primary school: 1-5 classes
High school: 6-10 classes (receives Secondary School Certificate [SSC] upon completion)
College: 11-12 class (receives Higher Secondary Certificate [HSC] upon completion)
University: Four-year honours programme or three-year pass course And then one-year masters programme for honours graduates and two-year masters programme for pass course graduates.

Apart from these, there are technical and vocational schools and colleges.

The most distinguishing feature of today's education system in Bangladesh is that more and more parents send their children to English medium schools and a number of private universities have been established in the last one decade.


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yolanda Speece  Identity Verified
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Thanks for the feedback! Feb 28, 2007

lexical wrote:

This site gives a very good overview of schooling in England (beware that arrangements are different in Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland, but there are links to these) http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/actionnetwork/A1181792

I think you should reflect that you are asking a hugely widesweeping question akin to asking "Please describe your country's system of democratic government". Why not do some research yourself?

At a push, I might be able to give you similar information about the system in Spain - would you prefer it in Spanish (Castellano), Catalan, Basque or Gallego? I'm afraid we don't do American.



Why don't you provide it in each?


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