writing into PDF files
Thread poster: Mohammad Khan

Mohammad Khan
Afghanistan
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English to Dari
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Jan 13, 2007

Hi,

Can anyone advise on how to make changes into an already existing PDF file. Basically I have to make some correction into a translated work given by my client. Also if it is possible to use the any of the trail versions of Adobe Acrobat for that purpose.

Thanks


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Patricia Fierro, M. Sc.  Identity Verified
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You have to convert the file into a Word file Jan 13, 2007

Hi,

You should either ask your client for the Word file or try to create one yourself.

There are several articles on this subject in these Forums and also in the Article Knowledgebase (to go to this option go to Community > Article Knowledgebase > Technology > Software and the Internet).

The trial versions of Adobe Acrobat can be used to create .PDF files from a Word file and not the other way around.

Good luck,
Patricia

[Edited at 2007-01-13 15:31]


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Satto (Roberto)  Identity Verified
Colombia
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Not so Jan 13, 2007

If you have the complete Adobe Acrobat, (not just the reader), you can sure make some minor changes to the PDF documents. On the menu, there is a key called marked with a capital "T", rolling down the menu it is called the "Touchup text tool". You can certainly makes changes and save them without having to convert to word back and forth all over again.

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franksf
Chinese to English
Got a good scanner? Jan 13, 2007

scan in your doc in the highest res text mode possible, dump to a word processor.

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lexical  Identity Verified
Spain
Local time: 18:53
Portuguese to English
This is not the most elegant way but... Jan 13, 2007

...you can try pasting the PDF text into Word.

In the PDF document, click on the Select Tool (looks like "I") and then, with the mouse, select the text you want. You may not be able to select it all at once because the paragraph marks (like balck arrowheads) may limit how much you can copy at a time.

Then open Word and paste the copied text. You will lose all formatting like this (especially tables) but it's one way of dealing with simple text.


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William [Bill] Gray  Identity Verified
Norway
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It can be done, but... Jan 13, 2007

Mohammad Khan wrote:

Hi,

Can anyone advise on how to make changes into an already existing PDF file. Basically I have to make some correction into a translated work given by my client. Also if it is possible to use the any of the trail versions of Adobe Acrobat for that purpose.

Thanks


Hello Mohammad!

I have recently made proofing comments on a PDF file. I was able to use Adobe Acrobat Reader 7.0 to do so, but the file also had to be saved in such a way that I had "commenting and callout" access. It was the first time I had done this, and I was very pleased and impressed with these tools.

Ask your client if they can send you a file where you have commenting privileges. It's an option that is set when the file is saved in PDF format, along with printing, editing, and a few other rights as well.

Basically, the idea is that a PDF file cannot be tampered with. But there are a few loopholes which can be left open.

Good luck with it.

Bill


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Natalie  Identity Verified
Poland
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Hi all Jan 13, 2007

FYI, I moved the topic to the Office Applications forum.

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xxxrberes1
Local time: 18:53
English to Hungarian
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Printing not necessary Jan 13, 2007

franksf wrote:

scan in your doc in the highest res text mode possible, dump to a word processor.


My methodology is the following.

1. Use Pdf995 (www.software995.com) to create a hi-res jpeg snapshot of each page
2. Use ABBYY Finereader to create an .rtf file from each snapshot

In this way, you save printing costs, and keep the original format (including pictures), and can even use Trados for translation in the usual way.

3. If necessary, you can use Pdf995 to export the translated file back to pdf


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Heinrich Pesch  Identity Verified
Finland
Local time: 19:53
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Get Foxit Reader Jan 13, 2007

This is a free substitution for Acrobat and much faster. You can make notes into pdfs and save the new file.
I have thrown out Acrobat and use Foxit as default pdf-reader.

http://www.foxitsoftware.com/pdf/rd_intro.php

Cheers
Heinrich


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Bogdan Burghelea  Identity Verified
Romania
Local time: 19:53
English to German
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Solutions from Abbyy Jan 13, 2007

Richard Beres wrote:

franksf wrote:

scan in your doc in the highest res text mode possible, dump to a word processor.


My methodology is the following.

1. Use Pdf995 (www.software995.com) to create a hi-res jpeg snapshot of each page
2. Use ABBYY Finereader to create an .rtf file from each snapshot

In this way, you save printing costs, and keep the original format (including pictures), and can even use Trados for translation in the usual way.

3. If necessary, you can use Pdf995 to export the translated file back to pdf


Since you propose a solution from Abbyy - FineReader - then, why not use the tool designed for it:
a) Use PDF Transformer (evidently, from Abbyy), which shall change the PDF file into a rtf or doc file.

b) Make necessary change.

c) Export the rft or doc file into pdf format. I use pdfFactoryPro, but there are plenty of other (free) solutions on the Internet.


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Hendarto Setiadi  Identity Verified
Indonesia
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English to Indonesian
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Can be done with full version of Adobe Acrobat Jan 13, 2007

You can edit (not just add notes/comments to) a PDF document in the way described by Satto (Roberto), but sometimes the formatting of the document goes awry.

HTH


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tinageta  Identity Verified
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English to Latvian
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infix Jan 13, 2007

You can also try this solution:
http://www.iceni.com/pdf_editor_infix.htm


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Mohammad Khan
Afghanistan
Local time: 21:23
English to Dari
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Language support Jan 14, 2007

Thanks all,

I tried many of the suggested sofewares but the problem is that they do not work properly with files written in Farsi.


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ViktoriaG  Identity Verified
Canada
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I would offer the client two alternatives Jan 15, 2007

1. They send me an editable (read: Word) file to work in
2. I put little yellow comments into the PDF of make up a comment file in Word, and they will implement the changes themselves.

I know this will sound a bit rude, but as a translator, it's not your job to do the DTP. The time it will take you to get the result you want should be paid, but with an already agreed upon rate, you will be at a loss.

The PDF they sent you - it was originally in some editable format before it became a PDF. Why don't they send you that?

Last resort solution: you can always retype the whole thing, but make sure you get your hourly translation rate paid for it - or propose they have someone else retype it and forward that to you. And yes, hourly TRANSLATION rate, not typing rate. You are a translator and shouldn't have to do simple data entry in your position. If they want you to type, they should pay the translation rate, because you ARE a translator.

All the best!


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Ahmad Hassaballa  Identity Verified
Turkey
Local time: 19:53
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German to Arabic
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Use Adobe Illustrator Jan 16, 2007

Hello Mohammad,

Just open the file in Adobe Illustrator ME (Middle East version) and you'll get full access to the file without loosing any format.

Kind regards,

Ahmad Hassaballa

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