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Working with "Windows Excel"
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Francesco Damiani  Identity Verified
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Sep 13, 2007

It is difficult working with "Windows Excel"?
I read a job offer in which I need this software, but to avoid offering something I can't achieve, I'd know understand more furtherly....
Thank you very much.
Francesco


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esperantisto  Identity Verified
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There is no "Windows Excel" Sep 13, 2007

Probably, you mean Microsoft Office Excel? No, it is not difficult working with it. But you should be more precise on what you want to know.

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MS Office Excel Sep 13, 2007

If you already have Word and MS Office on your computer, you probably also have Excel too.

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Francesco Damiani  Identity Verified
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Yes Sep 13, 2007

Yes,I have "Excel" but my aim is understand more furtherly what is "Windows Excel".
Working with "Word" is an habit for me, even if I find to translate more and more with files HTML. I already said I've fear to promise something I'm not able to do.
Thank you again
Francesco


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Wilmer Brouwer
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Use your normal CAT or copy to Word. Sep 13, 2007

Do you translate with Trados or Wordfast? In that case you can translate the file in tageditor as normal with Trados, or in Word with Wordfast.
You can also copy the cells to Word and paste them after finishing the translation. Should usually not be a problem.


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Margreet Logmans  Identity Verified
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Help file? Tutorial? Sep 13, 2007

As with all Microsoft Windows software, Excel comes with a help file too.
Open the programme, fool around, read the help file. Maybe they've even got a tutorial.

If you know how to work with other MS Office tools, Excel should not be a problem.
It is, by the way, a spreadsheet/database programme.

Good luck.


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Caroline Reiss  Identity Verified
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Tutorials Sep 13, 2007

Hi Francesco,

Excel is a fairly straight-forward programme to learn. I hadn't used it that much until about three years ago and now I use it quite a bit for compiling/storing glossaries and general business admin. If you google "Excel tutorial", you can find plenty of good sites that can help you learn how to use it. Really, it's just a case of opening the programme and playing around with it, also, as Margreet mentioned earlier, the help files are extremely useful too.

Good luck!


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Deschant
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Ask the customer/agency Sep 13, 2007

Ask your customer/agency what is exactly expected of you. Some of them use Excel in a very straightforward way: they provide the sentences or paragraphs to translate in one column and you have to write each translation in the next column (so that they know exactly which is the translation for each paragraph). This is very simple, and you only need the ability to type (as in Word) and to switch from one cell to the other (which you can do by using the arrows in your keyboard or by using the mouse).

Other projects may need a more advanced use of Excel but in any case, as Caroline pointed out, it's not a terribly complex problem to learn.

Regards,
Eva


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Luisa Fiorini  Identity Verified
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MS Office Excel Sep 13, 2007

Francesco Damiani wrote:

Yes,I have "Excel" but my aim is understand more furtherly what is "Windows Excel".


As the other colleagues told you, Windows Excel does not exist. Maybe your client was referring to Microsoft Office Excel. If you have Word, you certainly have Excel too.


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Steven Capsuto  Identity Verified
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It's a legitimate, meaningful term Sep 13, 2007

I believe this is a reference to the Windows version of Excel as distinct from the Mac version. (If memory serves, the Mac version came first.)

It's more common to call it "Excel for Windows" but I've heard people make the "Windows Excel" versus "Mac Excel" distinction, particularly when I was working in IT.

These days it hardly matters which version you use, at least with most Western alphabets. But using the wrong version with Cyrillic, for instance, may cause problems, especially with older operating systems and/or older releases of Excel.

[Edited at 2007-09-13 15:18]


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Oliver Walter  Identity Verified
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Word without Excel is possible Sep 13, 2007

Luisa Fiorini wrote:
If you have Word, you certainly have Excel too.

That is probable but not certain: there is a Microsoft office (not "Office") product called "Works suite" which includes the Word word processor but has a simpler spreadsheet that is not Excel.
Oliver


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Steven Capsuto  Identity Verified
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Yes, they are (or were) sold separately Sep 14, 2007

I bought Word 2003 and Excel 2003 as stand-alone apps. You don't have to buy the whole Office suite.

[Edited at 2007-09-14 01:46]


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Francesco Damiani  Identity Verified
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Yes, but........ Sep 14, 2007

At present I answered to this job offer.........I don't want take a risk, but perhaps it is possible to solve out this problem(?)...
I was worry becuse I don't want take a risk, say "Yes" and understand this "Windows Excel" isn't at my disposal in my computer. But perhaps by using "Word" I can work.Thank you very much to everybody!
Francesco


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Ralf Lemster  Identity Verified
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Compliance with job requirements Sep 14, 2007

Hi Francesco,
I was worry becuse I don't want take a risk, say "Yes" and understand this "Windows Excel" isn't at my disposal in my computer. But perhaps by using "Word" I can work.


Don't you think there's a reason why Microsoft Excel is required? It is possible to use Word as a workaround - but I fail to see how you're going to manage that if you don't know the required software in the first place.

To me, accepting a job with requirements you cannot meet sounds like a recipe for getting into trouble...

Best regards,
Ralf


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Ramon Somoza  Identity Verified
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Why use Excel at all? Sep 15, 2007

Francesco Damiani wrote:

At present I answered to this job offer.........I don't want take a risk, but perhaps it is possible to solve out this problem(?)...
I was worry becuse I don't want take a risk, say "Yes" and understand this "Windows Excel" isn't at my disposal in my computer. But perhaps by using "Word" I can work.Thank you very much to everybody!
Francesco


If you have Trados, you can use the Tageditor to translate the Excel file - I do not believe that you need Excel at all for that purpose.

However, if you want to check, please e-mail me with your e-mail and I'll send a sample text in Excel so that you can try it out...

bests


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