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Poll: Do you use a nickname in Proz.com? Are you male or female?
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Claudia Iglesias  Identity Verified
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Isn't there something wrong with this poll? Jul 23, 2005

Shouldn't No/Female + Yes/female be equal to 100% and No/Male + Yes/Male too?
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No / Female 45.0%
No / Male 30.0%
Yes / Female 25.0%
Yes / Male 0.0%


Claudia


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Paul Stevens  Identity Verified
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No problem Jul 23, 2005

Claudia Iglesias wrote:

Shouldn't No/Female + Yes/female be equal to 100% and No/Male + Yes/Male too?
There's a problem



No / Female 45.0%
No / Male 30.0%
Yes / Female 25.0%
Yes / Male 0.0%


Claudia


Claudia, the totals add up to 100%, which is correct as you've set the poll up; it's just that more females have voted so far (70% - i.e. 45% + 25%).

If you want to know what percentage of males or females that have voted so far have a nickname, you need to divide the % yes/male or yes/female by the overall % male or female respectively that have voted. E.g. the % of females that use a nickname - so far - equates to 25/70%, i.e. 35.7% approx.; whereas % of males that use a nickname - so far - equates to 30/30%, i.e. 100%.

Trust this clarifies

Paul


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Selçuk Budak  Identity Verified
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Translation: A Feminine Job? Jul 23, 2005

From the tentative statistics of this poll, it seems that female translators outnumber the male ones. Since the number is enoughly high for an assumption of statistically significant difference (N = 167 at the moment this message is posted > 20), is it safe to attribute it to a gender difference?

If yes, then whence comes this difference? Is it simply because women tend to be more responsive to such polls, or does it stem from a difference in linguistic abilities?
If the former is true, it only points to a surface trait.
Nevertheless, if the latter is true, it can support the traditional view that women are more articulate, that female children acquire language more quickly and deeply than their male counterparts.

There is another, and yet simpler sociological assumption: that this (translation) is a type of job like other feminine jobs (such as teaching) simply by virtue of its convenience: A job that women can easily engage in during their pastimes while tending their children, taking care of home, and supporting the family without the requirements of a full-time office work.

What do you think? Whence comes this difference?


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Claudia Iglesias  Identity Verified
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Thanks Paul Jul 23, 2005

When I read my question yesterday, after having asked, I started to understand. It was late and I'm bad at maths

Selçuk: Interesting questions, but right now it's too early to think about it

In fact, it was impossible to propose this poll as the form allows only one question. So I suggested two polls, one for female and an other one for male and staff fusionned it (they understood what I wanted to know)

Claudia


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Özden Arıkan  Identity Verified
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All of the above - and more :-) Jul 24, 2005

After all, nothing is a result of one single factor alone, so all the factors -and others- are at work here, I think.

I don't think that that women are more articulate is a traditional view alone, but something nourished by 'tradition', as well. If it's true that female translators outnumber their male colleagues -I don't know if it is- this might be one factor - in the poll results, too, because by extension, women like it better than men and are certainly readier to talk about themselves.

Also, don't forget that the capability of thinking with the concepts and terms of the other is more supported in a woman's upbringing and life in general. And I find this capacity essential to translation. But what you say about the status of the profession might certainly be another factor. Sad, but true.



Selçuk Budak wrote:

From the tentative statistics of this poll, it seems that female translators outnumber the male ones. Since the number is enoughly high for an assumption of statistically significant difference (N = 167 at the moment this message is posted > 20), is it safe to attribute it to a gender difference?

If yes, then whence comes this difference? Is it simply because women tend to be more responsive to such polls, or does it stem from a difference in linguistic abilities?
If the former is true, it only points to a surface trait.
Nevertheless, if the latter is true, it can support the traditional view that women are more articulate, that female children acquire language more quickly and deeply than their male counterparts.

There is another, and yet simpler sociological assumption: that this (translation) is a type of job like other feminine jobs (such as teaching) simply by virtue of its convenience: A job that women can easily engage in during their pastimes while tending their children, taking care of home, and supporting the family without the requirements of a full-time office work.

What do you think? Whence comes this difference?



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Julio Torres
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I Agree Jul 25, 2005

Xola wrote:

Also, don't forget that the capability of thinking with the concepts and terms of the other is more supported in a woman's upbringing and life in general. And I find this capacity essential to translation.


Most of my classmates in the university were women, and in my association there are more women than men, so I think these facts help to support this poll.

I agree with Xola, studies have proved that, in general, women are better in language than men. This could be a biological or sociological fact. That's another question.

[Edited at 2005-07-25 05:02]


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