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Poll: Would you agree with lowering the weekly limits of KudoZ questions to 45/15 for member/non-members?
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Jul 28, 2006

This forum topic is for the discussion of the poll question "Would you agree with lowering the weekly limits of KudoZ questions to 45/15 for member/non-members?".

This poll was originally submitted by Enrique

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Enrique Cavalitto
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Why this poll? Jul 28, 2006

When we created weekly limit to the amount of KudoZ questions that can be asked (on top of the daily ones), we (staff) decided to select initial values of 60 for members and 20 for non-members, to be reviewed after the system was in use for some time.

We think now that these weekly limits could be lowered to 45 for members and 15 for non-members (from 4 days to 3 days at the top of the daily limits).

Before deciding for or against this modification we would like to learn what our community feels about it.

Please note that we are concentrating only on two alternatives, the current 60/20 and the lower 45/15 one.

Regards,
Enrique Cavalitto


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Kirill Semenov  Identity Verified
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Yes, and stricter Jul 28, 2006

I voted `yes', but I think the limits should be even stricter, like no more than 5/3 per day, 20/10 per week, 50/30 per month or so - or, even better, depending on the number of points-earned KudoZ answers given.

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Aurora Humarán  Identity Verified
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Against Jul 28, 2006

Enrique wrote:


We think now that these weekly limits could be lowered to 45 for members and 15 for non-members (from 4 days to 3 days at the top of the daily limits).

Before deciding for or against this modification we would like to learn what our community feels about it.

Enrique Cavalitto



I had already been against the original limit.

I may need to ask them or I may not, but I want to know that I have the possibility.

Aurora


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Enrique Cavalitto
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Thanks! Jul 28, 2006

Kirill Semenov wrote:

I voted `yes', but I think the limits should be even stricter, like no more than 5/3 per day, 20/10 per week, 50/30 per month or so - or, even better, depending on the number of points-earned KudoZ answers given.


Thanks Kirill,

We are not considering other posibilites beyond the two indicated in the poll.

Regards,
Enrique


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Kirill Semenov  Identity Verified
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Yes, I understand, but... Jul 28, 2006

Enrique wrote:
...no more than 5/3 per day, 20/10 per week, 50/30 per month or so - or, even better, depending on the number of points-earned KudoZ answers given.

We are not considering other posibilites beyond the two indicated in the poll.
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Dear Enrique, yes, I know, but I tried to explain the idea that X questions per day is not 7*X per week or 30*X per month.

I've seen cases when people have an urgent job and they really need to ask 5 or even more question a day to meet their deadline. Myself, I have jobs sometimes when asking questions at KudoZ I confessed that I didn't have any time to google a phrase out thoroughly, because of my strict deadline, so I asked for help from my fellow colleagues to save my time. But it cannot last long, that's why the decrease with respect of questions per week or per month.


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Franco Rigoni  Identity Verified
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I disagree Jul 28, 2006

I think the present limit is ok. I sometimes have urgent jobs that need to be completed in just a few hours so I do not have enough time to check everything in google and i just use kudoz. Why would users want a reduction?

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Ma. Fernanda Blesa  Identity Verified
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60/20 Jul 28, 2006

Kirill Semenov wrote:
or, even better, depending on the number of points-earned KudoZ answers given.


I absolutely do not agree with this, because students and people who are just starting to work as translators would be forced to answer questions in order to be able to ask their own questions. I think the result of this would be a decrease in the quality of the answers, not because these people are not good, but simply because they still lack the experience.

As for the 45/15 or 60/20 limits, I fully agree with Aurora, Proz best feature, for me at least, is knowing that if I need to ask a question I can do so and get a really fast answer.

If at some point other options are considered, my vote would be for some limit (maybe higher than 20) for non members and no limit for members.

Fernanda.


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Ian M-H
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Fine, but... Jul 28, 2006

Enrique wrote:
We are not considering other posibilites beyond the two indicated in the poll.


Fine, but there's surely no problem with explaining why one has voted in a particular way? In this case, I too would have preferred a stricter limit and so I also voted for the better of two - in my opinion - less than perfect options.

It's good to see that mods and staff are actively working on these questions, even if we don't all agree on all the details. Keep up the good work - improving KudoZ, as we've seen on other recent threads, is a major concern for many of us.


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Sven Petersson  Identity Verified
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Remove the limits! Jul 28, 2006

The survey is meaningless since no alternative REMOVE THE LIMITS is provided.

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xxxtazdog
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agree Jul 28, 2006

...and like a few others, I would probably make the limits even stricter if that were an option. I can't imagine even asking 45 questions in a month, let alone a week (I haven't even asked that many in a whole year). Professional translators should know their limits, and taking on a job that would require them to ask that many questions in a week means that they are over their heads, either because of biting off more than they can chew or lack of familiarity with the subject. I think the whole philosophy of using Kudoz as a crutch rather than a last resort is one of the reasons why so many questions are posted that could easily be resolved with a little investigation (or even by simply looking in a dictionary); I see plenty of examples every day.

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Cilian O'Tuama
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Should be lowered Jul 28, 2006

As things are now, platinum members are more or less invited to ask more than THREE THOUSAND questions per year (60 x 52). That should be enough for a professional translator's lifetime!

Even if you're not considering this option, I wanted to mention it.


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Magda Dziadosz  Identity Verified
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In other words... Jul 28, 2006

you use your collegues to do the job for you, right?


Magda

kero wrote:

I think the present limit is ok. I sometimes have urgent jobs that need to be completed in just a few hours so I do not have enough time to check everything in google and i just use kudoz. Why would users want a reduction?


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Enrique Cavalitto
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Options not included Jul 28, 2006

Sven Petersson wrote:

The survey is meaningless since no alternative REMOVE THE LIMITS is provided.


This option was not included because the corresponding option is not being considered.

Enrique


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Dees  Identity Verified
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Google search Jul 28, 2006

Magda Dziadosz wrote:

you use your collegues to do the job for you, right?


Magda

kero wrote:

I think the present limit is ok. I sometimes have urgent jobs that need to be completed in just a few hours so I do not have enough time to check everything in google and i just use kudoz. Why would users want a reduction?


That is what I thought too after reading your post, Kero.

I came across this Google service the other day:
http://answers.google.com/answers/

With all due respect, if you need someone to help you with Internet search or checking things on Google, then that would be a great solution.


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